Just got off a suspension for “claim spam” still not sure how, but my question is this why/how did i get suspended when at least two others clans(one especially for as ling as ive been on the server) seems to get away with it. The reason for the topic title is last time i put in a ticket in against someone nothing happened to them and i got the suspension. What should i do?
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You should probably stop claim spamming lol
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do you have a picture of your old base?
Not any more.
The only reason other clans “get away with it” is because no one reported them. Someone reported you, the ticket went through Zendesk and was acted upon. For all you know, the others were reported too but the tickets took longer to get a response.
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Its annoying because the definition of spam is grey area. The report tool being used by toxic players. I am not even playing anymore just have thralls stashed lol. I been playing ark even though it is toxic at least god doesnt use almighty powers.
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pretty much 12x12 no walls. 
and im not kidding 
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Yes, Funcom’s enforcement is not in any way shape or form consistent and therefor is almost always unfair when considering serer-wide “violations”. I dunno how the reporting is translated into action and FC ( @Umborls ) isn’t telling us either. It may be that multiple complaints are needed for action to be prompt. We don’t even know if these “judges” might be players on some of the servers they are judging others on - which would be a severe conflict of interest.
It is a total mess if we believe even a fraction of the people on these forums! The best thing you can do is to get out from under this almost totally mismanaged enforcement system by joining a private server to your liking.
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I completely disagree, I feel like that was one area that Funcom was crystal clear about.
An excerpt from the ToS:
Abuse of the claim system where blocks are placed for no other purpose than to prevent other players’ access to resources and building spots.
I take this to mean that even one foundation placed is in violation if that foundation is blocking a spawn point or is solely intended to prevent another player from building. Like preventing a player from building trebuchets or altars in PvP, or preventing another player from building (what ‘you’ deem is) too close to your base (in PvE or PvE-C). Don’t get me wrong, there are some grey areas in the ToS but the land claim spam is not one of them.
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It’s not quite “crystal clear” but I agree that it is very clear indeed. The problem to my mind is that the clarity introduced exposed some fairly major discrepancies between normal play and “the rules” - where people are being banned for "land claim abuse " (FC doesn’t use the term “spam”), when no typical average player would consider it to be so.
There is also some “grey area” remaining because the definition given involves both structure intent and structure purpose. In many of the cases I’ve looked into FC doesn’t seem to be following their own guidelines or at least has a different (unclarified) definition of “intent” and “purpose” than many of us do. @Umborls has basically said that he doesn’t intend to clarify further nor offer FC’s definitions tho… so, yeah, parts are clear, but grey areas remain as well.
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I agree in additional they should of reach out to understand purpose of the structure or at least give notice of issues. Seems unfair in my point of view to destroy all the hard work and suspend for a long period of time. I personally didnt think fence stacking was against the rules due to being the norm of the game. Nevertheless it would of been easier on everyone to post or send message to clan of violations.
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The simpliest solution would of been to condense servers and increased resources to the server and give it a name called anarchy server. Personally it was easier to deal with hackers, ddoser, undermesher and pork thralls then these grey rules. This is my experience from playing conan for about 5 years.
Its very clear to me.
Placing claim block say where the insect queen boss spawns , north of Separmaru for example is a bannable offense.
Blocking the Boss crocodile cave along the river is a bannable offense.
Walling in the entire area of a POI so people cant get to it is a bannable offense.
Also being in a CLAN where one member does any of this is also bannable for the entire clan.
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OKay, but how about placing a 300 block “guest house” on your property? FC says this could be “land claim abuse”. You think that’s obvious or “very clear”? How about a tower at each corner of your 25 x 25 block main structure? FC is saying this can be interpreted as “land claim abuse”. How about having 11 lights in your yard to light up the awesome scenery around your base? FC used an example with exactly 11 lights to show a base that was wiped (and the player suspended?) for land claim abuse. They showed another with only 8 lights for the same reasons. How many lights does the average player have around their base without thinking any thoughts of abuse, land claim, or land hording? In my recent build on a private server the number was 48. Until recently on an Official server the number was 28. (The good news here is that @Umborls says he is considering some sort of system where placeables and structures can have a “Public” designation rather than be property tied to an owner or clan.)
And if someone wanted to build where a few of my torches were - NP… just ask. We should be banned for it? LOL no, don’t think so! Also that base you see here is sitting empty and my benches are in a different location quite far away. I intend to move in fairly soon but if someone were to complain at just this moment and the admins came to look before I did, I would be banned and everything would be wiped. That’s fair, clear, or obvious?
Sure, the easy stuff like don’t place spam blocks or pillars on at a boss’s spawn location are clear, fair, and obvious - bot not everything is.
Assuming most people would act appropriately, yes, sending a clan message would take a lot less time and effort than demolishing the base and suspending multiple accounts. Tell @Umborls… maybe he’ll change the current procedures?
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Not clear at all. It’s vague and incongruent.
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People seem to be going back to the 11 torches picture, that was not the whole story and seems to now be taken out of context. I know what server that base was on and it was more than just the torches pictured, there was a ring around half the lake and surrounding area and they had multiple buildings.
I did receive a ban for “land claim” because I had foundations pieces with torches on them to light up the area when a purge would hit at night as it is very dark in the North. I was lucky enough to be able to talk with FC and get my ban overturned and they had not destroyed my base so I was able to keep everything and immediately when in and removed my purge lighting, and then I moved the whole base to another location just to make sure that there were no more problems with it.
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It doesn’t matter what else it did or didn’t have. The image stands as a sited example from FC employees with lines and arrows pointing to the “fence post” supported lights and claiming that is a bannable offense. Any other aspect of that base is completely irrelevant.
You were lucky on getting the ban overturned - it doesn’t seem to ever go like that - you’re the first person I’ve heard of saying so. In the opinions of so many here, you should have never been banned for it in the first place tho. Being banned (or really receiving any “punishment” at all), for lighting up your yard… how ridiculous does that even sound??? UG!
I know this isn’t completely apples to apples but for perspective meditate on this: You join a private server that says “build (almost) anywhere” and you do the usual thing of joining and chatting in discord with the group. You build a moderate base and add 11 pillar supported lights in your front yard. Two days later you try to log in and find you’re banned and they tell you in discord they demolished your base. How would you feel about that group and that Admin then? Would you ever even go back there? F’them would be my response.
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This is not even including pvp style of fighting. This seems more of a pve standpoint but I dont understand why they think building a wall a distance from your property is unreasonable n rule breaking. If walls were closer to main structure would defeat purpose of defense against gods n early warning system. Plus you dont want people walling your base in and basically wipe the clan…
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I’m wondering if it actually comes down to the wall being as high as the base itself. For example, during a purge, the npcs are only going to really hit at their level, so a couple walls high perhaps. If a base is lets say 10 walls high, does the wall need to be that high as well? Technically no, but then again I’m not a dev, or admin, im just a fellow player also trying to figure this out.
Edit: i only just thought of this as well; do walls need to be around the base all the time? If they are thrown up only just before an expected purge that would clearly be a reasonable excuse for purge defense, right? But what if the base never gets purged meaning the player never attemps to reach the purge point then the wall would be meaningless
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if you want to land claim around your base i suggest doing it on an alt that isn’t in your clan.
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