Surely i cant be the only pvp player on official that hates these harvest rates? Official does not feel rewarding anymore everything is way too easy to farm. It makes no sense for it to be 4x this is supposed to be official vanilla not an official private server. Here’s to hoping it gets changed in chapter 2
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It do not change anything. You just spend less time to farm 
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I think 4x for pvp good idea. less time for grind and farm, more for fun and war.
People are always upset loosing stuff via pvp and raids, now, they are upset only for 25%.
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people who cry about losing things constantly are pve players playing on pvp servers. 4x is way too much for official. yes its good for rebuilding and whatever but stuff is way too easy to get now imo
Resources? Never was concerned for that. Thralls, legendaries, and, most importantly, Siptah gear from a previous age? Those are what I care about
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Definitely should not be changed
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When it was x8 it was a bit much. Now it’s x4 and I think this is the sweet spot. x1 was grindy as hell; now everyone has the chance to pick it back up quick to exact revenge or fight with decent enough loot in a reasonable period of time.
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I’m a solo, and I do rebuild my bases. I think the harvest rates are just fine at 4x for pvp. Anything less is just catering to other populated clans.
The problem with 4x is that you’ll become a farming target, so also consider you defenses. If they keep it at 4x just for pvp, good… less pve. 
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I guess you are…
well, minimum 2x for pvp, but I am fine with 4x for now, more pros, less cons.
Here is my take…
While I agree that the harvest rates making raiding irrelevant as far as gaining resources, it is needed because there are a larger issue with balancing raiding in general. Because it’s so easy to loose your stuff, it only makes sense that it should be easy to get back on your feet.
HOWEVER I believe the spawn rates of t4 thralls and legendary gear also needs to be included in this.
im solo too but i still prefer the grind. defenses lol there is no defenses anymore they took that away when they nerfed everything and added bats lol
Many will say the best defense is hiding. What a boring concept that is.
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So is overwhelming another clan 3:1 or off-lining and yet here we are.
I actually challenge that PVP is actually about player vs player combat at all. The only raiding I see are sure things in terms of off-lining and/or outnumbering opponents.
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Well that’s why there is a push for dbd
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You’re welcome to come play on Struggle & Survival. We have 0.5x harvesting.
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We need DBD!!! And pvp 2x is fine (but again 4x is good, nothing gamebreaking at all).
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