Official pvp server question

[TheJammie]

hi guys, so i have so i have some questions, ive noticed more and more since the whole magic update that server performance is worse, it lags, it crashes , pvp is somewhat impossible with certain individuals, why is it people with high ping can hit you but you cannot hit them?
i understand people can be better at pvp ,im not saying im the best, just saying its annoying farming all day to put a kit on and lose it in 0.1 sec to some dude thats a million miles away, or being far away from a fight and just getting hit.
i also understand that it can be server lag etc… but why does it always favor these people that are already always lagging?
here is one of many examples
like i said before doesnt happen with everyone, just those players it always happens to, and also when them players are on server , server is even more lag lag, and when they near you… god help you

[Kikigirl]

@Glatix gave a really great explanation on the recent changes:

PvP players Opinions on Officials

@Glatix

Q-Lock is the focus of most of the community, but it’s really not even the main issue.

I’m going to shamelessly shill my own prior post on hyper-armor changes, but only because it’s a huge part of the problem:

TL;DR: The Hyper Armor changes hurt the state of PvP and PvE experience by limiting the options of players. The Change: At present, most vanilla weapons have lost most of their Hyper Armor frames. Per the Developer Letter, the purpose of the Hyper Armor changes was to “increase the consistency of play further”. In order to achieve this, a rule was set that “Hyper Armor is reserved for moments during an attack where extreme momentum is present”. The General Issue Hyper Armor is a valuable too…

The biggest immediate PvP differences between the Age of War meta and the Age of Sorcery meta are:
-Hyper-armor is basically non-existent
-Stamina regenerates instantly
-Time to kill is very low due to over-tuned damage
-There’s no momentum mechanic anymore
-Q-lock is viable

As a result of Q-lock and missing hyper armor, no weapon can ever out-perform the daggers or spear in melee. No matter how well you time an attack you’ll never out-speed a dagger thrust or out-reach a spear poke. Weapons like the axe and sword previously had hyper from the beginning of their movesets, but now they get staggered out of attacks every time.

The instant stamina regen not only kills the stamina management aspect of skill expression, but creates a situation where there’s no downside for roll-poke spam or infinitely running away as an archer.

The burst damage meta only compounds these issues. Health recovery was a critical part of Conan PvP, and now it’s almost meaningless because time to kill is measured in single digits. Slow down to drink a potion? You’re dead. Using food? The passive healing isn’t nearly enough to matter.

There’s also no viability to trading/baiting anymore. Most weapon movesets are useless now, and even if they weren’t why sit there and tank damage when doing so results in a three-hit death? Players are currently incentivized to use their infinite stamina to disengage and joust with running attacks. A lack of any momentum mechanic (a situation where you can’t INSTANTLY start at full speed when running) means that there’s no downside to sprinting away from a losing trade. So instead of a fight we get two players chasing each other in a circle.

The previous meta was a very risk-reward type system. You could tank damage knowing that you had more hyper in your moveset and could achieve a knock-down. You could roll out of a losing trade and re-engage using a weapon with starting hyper to punish spamming. You could punish spear-poke spam by rolling and wheeling on them with an axe and heavy staggering them for a couple hits to get them off your back. You could catch someone with a greatsword light attack post-roll and out-trade weapons like the 1h sword and 1h axe. Every fight was a back and forth in which you carefully managed your health and stamina so that you could keep trading until you put your opponent on the back foot.

Skill mattered a LOT. Not just for winning trades, but for knowing how to prevent someone from recovering and being mindful of your own statuses. Age of Sorcery created a solid meta with a myriad of mechanics that influenced the outcome of a fight.

Now? Just pick up a bow or a spear, press the win button, and hope that your latency carries you.

Those who are laggy (either on purpose, ping abusing or far from a server) have always been favoured in how the server determines what is “true” in the programming.

[TheJammie]

well thats what i was thinking, just more indepth

[Glatix]

Lag has always been a mixed bag in regards to Conan. Prior to Age of War, high latency meant that you could pull off ghost hits but also that you ran the risk of getting wrecked by delayed trade damage. A less laggy player could wheel on you with an axe or a sword and punish your spamming before you even knew it was happening, because on your screen they’re still getting poked.

With the elimination of direct trading as a viable mechanic (due to factors like a lack of hyper-armor and overtuned damage), high lag players have a vast advantage in the current meta. They can kill you in three hits and you don’t have the health or hyper-armor to tank that and retaliate.