There are flawless versions in admin panel, as I pointed out “flawless” in my previous post
Those are equivalent to the lower end legendaries, there are legendaries with better base stats than those.
Edit: ok, I guess flawless versions would put them there with the top legendaries and Silent legion sword… That’s a bit too OP, you’re right…
I don’t know how to dup and never have, so it’s not just duping orbs that are gone.
All orbs are gone, private PVE server, default settings, no mods allowed.
Assuming a rollback and hotfix is coming, so holding off on playing until then. Everything you do now, will be lost.
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No rollbacks will happen. It’s just the orbs and those aren’t super hard to make. You get plenty of the glands for fire orbs hunting Salamanders in the jungle and lots of Ichor from Komodo harvesting.
They couldn’t differentiate the duplicated orbs from regular, so they took all of them out to put everyone back on equal footing (I.E. we all have to start over.)
Question is how much more damage those will deal.
However, seeing as at least the bow comes with 17 damage on normal and probably there being flawless khitan bows as well, those will become the OP archer thrall weapons.
The only answer missing is just how much damage those will deal.
I think if flawless versions of the different weapons are just as high as the best weapon of the same category (like the 2h sword in flawless dealing 66 damage, just like telith) then it’s totally fine. They should not deal more damage though, as that would make that dlc a pay2win one. (Tascha or whoever else, please deliver that message to the devs!)
Aside of that, I am looking forward to see those khitan buildings. I am curious about their cost and what they will look like in the game. Their icons are promising.
But…
@Tascha
Regarding nations and weapons… I do see a reason why to add buildings for each nation, it will create a wide viarity to build and decorate, which is something I love.
But why not give each nation a designated weapon? I think during the character creation, the part which is about nationality tells what those nations are good at. Some at magic, some at swordmanship, others with bows. Why did you add each weapon in khitan?
I get that, so i’m assuming the flawless is still +6 over what you posted. So flawless would be +1 damage more than dragonbone, but still lower than the best legendaries from loot boxes, right?
Also, do we even know if it’s possible to get the flawless versions legit in game without the admin menu ?
Alright let see how it all works now.
You don’t need to kill countless bosses to get best version of these weapons and they are already better then most of the legendaries. Dragonbone/obsidian (most of the time) are at same level as legendaries and I know that flawless SM bow gives +3 damage and yes, I did used funcom’s standard flawless calculation into account, which is logical.
It still does not matter, I asked why are SM and acheronian weapons usually weaker then HS weapons, I was ignored before. I hope they will address this before they start selling DLC or I am out
EDIT: And from what I think they told, they are SM counterparts, same should apply for iron counterparts, they should be exact same copy of these weapons, granted at exact same levels, Iron version are also different, but they are less relevant obviously.
Also, they should be listed in their SM/iron counterparts which would require you to unlock them with feat points as well, because they are just “skins”.
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I’m not a duper. All my orbs in single player unmodded are gone. Not a big deal they are their more for dealing with purges or more difficult solo play but it is a tad annoying (though all of mine are looted)
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UPDATE: A small hotfix for dedicated servers has been released. This fixed a frequently occurring crash related to corpse map markers. Please be sure you update your game. Again, this just affects dedicates servers. We apologize for any inconvenience and appreciate your patience!
Yes. That annoys the hell out of me that star metal and acheronian is no better than hardened steel (in most cases), given the additional mats required. Silent legion armor should NOT be better stats than all of the other flawless epic heavy armor either, yet it is. Teliths 2h sword is better than any legendary, which shouldn’t be either. The ‘cosmetic only’ DLC should not be giving out recipe’s for the top weapons/armor, and one particular set already needs nerfed.
Please also note this post in regard to the issues with today’s patch. We also just deployed a hotfix for the crashes some of you were experiencing on official servers.
Thanks for your patience 
I mean I totally understand and I agree the DLC weapons should be toned down slightly.
But your original post said “better than legendaries” which leads one to believe they are literally the best thing in the game.
Like if you had the highest damage weapon in the game through grinding, and then a DLC only weapon is released that is better, that is a big deal and very p2w.
But as it is now, sounds like they can just be slightly tweaked and brought inline with the rest of the high level craftables, which should be fine? For the DLC to be worth anything to end game players, they have to have stats that are comparable to other end-game content. As long as those items have appropriate level restrictions, it’s not too big of a deal imo.
Balance / damage numbers aren’t set in stone so if you think something should be tweaked, suggest it in a new post
thanks for the patch! But please fix the map maker bug! I have only OLD markers because I can’t remove them. Also give warning before a reset…this should be basic.
Silent legion still requires higher grade repair kits and if flawless hyperboaren armor actually exists outside of admin panel, I know I would even try to use heavy armor.
I would apply same rule to royal armor and sword, they should have been exact same copies of their counterparts, with flawless versions as well, unlockable thru feat points of their counterparts. I have royal armor disabled on steam, since I do not need 10 useless icons in my inventory.
EDIT: In fact, flawless hyrkanian armor is the only heavy armor available legitimately (-enc armor), that is why is everone using silent legion armor. I do not find 1-2% DR as a big deal
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Wild vaults spamming is not fixed yet, all our orbs are gone now (pvp), god’s bubbles and thralls are still in conflict., and I even have to pay to get some new items. 
So, why when I am not at full health, then eat some food, does my health drop a few points before I start regening (since new update)?
Maybe the thorns on my lobster are giving me damage when I go to eat it?
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SOOoo you deleted all my crafted orbs that took hours because someone was duping. you Owe legitimate players for their time with this. Dupilcated items would eventually leave the game due to design. you should of left them in, instead of ■■■■■■■■ over every legitimate player.
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You get the health buff from food when you’re at full hunger, not HP.
would rather you had postponed it and done actual testing on it. But no instead release another broke patch, punish fair players, praise exploiters and of course make sure you have that juicy paid for dlc in the patch to try ad tempt people to buying it when its actually released. By then though official pvp servers will be dead or just full of exploiters using the new exploits knowing it doesnt matter because when you fix the exploit you hurt fair players more than the people who exploited lol