PLEDGE: Give us a HARD Block limit/ Placement pieces on Official Servers

Why you want to impose arbitrary limits (that wouldn’t solve anything anyway) on others just because you can’t control yourself or because you can’t figure out the most commonsense edicts of base building?

Kinda cheeky there… You implied via context it was people you saw on the forums. Now you’re saying 15 on your server - which BTW I do not believe - at all - that a little too convenient and most players are not even aware of the existence of 15 other players on their server. Awareness levels are usually under 10 with some communication with 3 to 5 other clans. So even 15 just by itself sounds far fetched to me. And yes, if you think that means I think you are lying, you’re probably right.

I don’t want to impose anything, I’m just trying to find solutions to prevent this massacre from continuing.

The solution was already given. I have given them in depth myself and others have provided the condensed “nutshell” versions:

It can’t really be this hard for you…

I said you were smart. If you want to claim that is disrespectful, then well that’s on you. I’m not going to take your advice. I don’t believe its valid here.

Oh it does. Its why in five separate locked and unlisted threads on the topic my response was marked as a solution by the ones who make the rules.

So explain how that is? I can understand and follow rules. That means I’m not playing the game properly? This logic is not working.

Salt from hackers, exploiters, cheaters, griefers, jerks, dicks, and bigots is something we could do without.

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I thought that the purpose of a forum was to exchange in order to improve the situation but I am apparently not in the right place for that

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The builds you typically see on officials are pretty large on average. Far larger than you will see on a decently populated private. To be pushing past that and get oneself banned. You have to do something utterly ridiculous and downright malicious to others. Those are not the kind of people you want at the discussion.

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You aren’t the first person on the forums to bring this topic up and, honestly, simply making the statement that something must be done (ie that the rules need additional specific clarifications) isn’t an argument.

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One private server I played on had a build limit of 500 pieces per clan member.

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it’s up to you to believe me or not I don’t see what it could bring me to lie on this subject, I use a translator that’s maybe why my words are not always very clear

I’m just reporting a problem, I don’t pretend to know how to fix it, I offered some solutions but the discussion is very difficult here, so I’m going to do like many people and stop wasting my time here.

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This topic just gets old and it’s probably the reason FC doesn’t put specs out there…min-maxers cannot play a game without specs because it’s their nature to leverage the advantages of the game. So they want to know what the definition of is means and all other nuanced stuff. They don’t understand this makes the game completely unenjoyable for those that don’t need to leverage every single aspect of the game.

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If I can’t see people not understanding how to build properly, then it isn’t happening to me either.

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This. As I have said elsewhere on the forums, I am not really in favor of HARD BLOCK LIMITS, but CE Officials do need some building control. I am very much in favor of detaching land claim from foundations and making it so that you “Claim” a specific area in which you are free to build to your heart’s content. All of that being said, I would much rather have a hard building limit than to guess at whether my base is going to get wiped for being too large.

This is something I’m afraid of. A hard building limit should be around 15K pieces minimum.

Exactly My point!

I’m no fan of limits either, the only thing kept me coming back is building.

But people on my server not the hackers or gankers or glitchers or the multi accounts one’s, has been deleted and banned for building…

None! Is the answer to that! And “none” is what it should be too!

60k, 15k… LOL, OMG, that’s so completely out of touch it’s no wonder you’re having trouble understanding these uber-simple concepts! I’m now questioning if you’re just here to stir the pot or if you have actually ever built anything at all - ever…

From reading here it’s not surprising to me that you couldn’t judge a 1,000,000,000 part limit suggestion as underserving of any respect.

And get it straight right now you and other flag abusers, I’m not disrespecting you personally and not violating any terms. I do however have no respect for your recently expressed ideas about caps and cap limits. And this is within the terms.

Let’s respect each other - Yes!
Let’s respect each other’s opinions - Only if worthy!

It might as well be. 15k is five HUGE castles! It’s a flipping city! 60k is an expansive metropolis capable of covering several square kilometers if not many square kilometers.

My first base was 5.4k and covered roughly 10,000 square meters - 3 central buildings 3, 3, and 5 stories tall any one of which could house a clan of 10. My next base was 3.2k, comprised of two 4-story buildings A triple tower and a traditional castle - all four capable of containing all the benches in the game many in triplicate and also 10 to 15 beds (each).


This base 542 pieces, fits all the benches “Improved” where applicable - in quadruplicate for some, 20 chests, 2 horses, a stable, thrall wheel, 8 thralls, 8 freezers, and has room for about 6 or 8 beds. 60k parts would be ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY of these… This is why I’m doubting you’ve even ever built anything yourself. And yes, it demonstrates that you’re not understanding the uber-simple concepts that Funcom is laying out.

It’s not me implying that you can’t understand these simple concepts… It’s you demonstrating you’re not understanding them. And that’s not a personal attack either!

Q. What is Funcom doing?
A. Banning players who violate the ToS.

Q. What does the ToS say?
A. By playing on an official server you are asked to follow the rules below.
… Some specific cases where we will act when made aware:

  • Blocking of content in the game, such as dungeons, obelisks, resources and other areas of the game.
  • Abuse of the claim system where blocks are placed for no other purpose than to prevent other players’ access to resources and building spots.
  • Massive constructions or over-use of memory intensive items leading to loss of performance both on client and server-side.
    Time will not be spent to carefully remove only offending pieces. All constructions belonging to the owner (player or clan) will be destroyed. There will be no refunds of materials or inventories.

It is almost impossible to use 15k parts and NOT violate several of these conditions. It is absolutely impossible to to use 60k parts and not violate just about all of them. And that is not anyone’s “opinion” it’s just the makeup of the game-map.

Alright, fair enough… you started sighting the rules apparently without understanding the tense and tone and usually flagging is the next thing…

Sure you could if you wanted to but even bringing that up tells me once again, you’re completely misunderstanding the issue. Just for S&G tho, my rig maintains about 200 FPS at 4k HDR 10+ with everything set to Cinematic - although I usually play the game in a 1440p UW window. Client-side performance is only one very small part of it though. More of concern to FC is server performance and other player’s experiences! Again, not my opinion - that’s from FC…

You are, yes. You are accusing me of personally attacking you when I am not. That in it’s worst light is lying about me - and in the best light is again - not understanding something you should be able to.

Why do I have to be tolerant of bad ideas? No thank you.

Yes, someone already mentioned that they saw 15 people getting banned. :stuck_out_tongue: So, yeah, you’re not the only one with these ideas. But such ideas are a fundamental misunderstanding of what FC is doing.

Really? That doesn’t look like a question to me:


There have been a whole bunch. Here’s just one such!

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Nope! The “problem” is you’re not understanding what Funcom is saying!

You will be banned and the bases deleted! Simple as that!

You know, when people talk about the number of pieces - it’s about in a single location. Not the entirety of what the person has made on a server. That’s why they’re expressing such disbelief at someone needing that much. It’s always about single locations because however much of something is in any one spot - it doesn’t matter unless a client is in render distance of it.

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Yeah, but then you mentioned that your theoretical 60k figure was actually 10 separate sites so in actuality we’re talking only about 6k pieces.

Surely you can see how a discrepancy like that will cause some confusion and incredulity.

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