This is not an assumption, this is how it is. In the story that became the basis for the idea, this spider was killed without much difficulty.
The fact that it was killed without much difficulty proves it is not the real Zath.
And there was no other Zath except the spider in the basement. Except for the statue in the temple))
It was a cult invented by one fraudster.
No just no. Willing to debate about the bubble, agree for the most part, but hell, I wish I could turn the icons off on my map. I don’t give a flying fornication where your temples are. PVE.
I know Jimbo has been pushing for this. A god rework is number 3 on my list.
The only thing I might change is armor light/medium/heavy will dependent on the level of the alter T1/2/3. T1 would only be your sacrificial tool. T2 would be steel weapons, T3 star metal. Make those T4 priests count.
Atlach-Nacha is a Great Old One that claims parentage of all spiders. Zath is a god that claims parentage of all spiders. Signs of Atlach-Nacha’s presence are particularly large spiders, such as those of the Plateau of Leng. Signs of Zath’s presence are particularly large spiders, such as those of Yezud.
While it is not literally written, both Clark Ashton Smith and Robert E Howard were correspondents and members of the Lovecraft Circle, which Funcom has deemed to more or less be entirely canon, as elements of all of the above and even inclusions of both deities already exist in-game. It is never directly stated they are one and the same, however it is also never stated they are not.
Are we to assume Yog is not Yog-Sothoth as they don’t align exactly; or are we to assume they are in fact one and the same, interpreted differently by mortals of limited understanding? Nothing is ever truly defined, mortal minds simply do not and can not know how the gods operate, barely comprehending a portion of their existence.
The cult of Zath was invented from scratch. Sucked out of thin air by a clever swindler.
There was and is no Zath in reality. After killing the giant spider and destroying the temple, the cult must inevitably die.
In general, it is not clear why they introduced this misunderstanding into the game. It would be much better to add the cult of Dagon. At least it is a well-known ancient religion with rich traditions.
And here I thought I was the one making bold claims with thin sources behind them. What’s your source on that? Because it’s certainly not the books.
Lyon Sprague de Camp. “Conan and the Spider God”
The most detailed history of the cult of Zath.
Because the “gods” of the Exiled Lands are not the gods of the Hyborian Age. The avatars are brought into being by massive amounts of human sacrifice and weird rituals, and whichever gods the summoner claims to worship may have nothing to say in the matter.
You could probably sacrifice souls to an invisible pink unicorn in the Exiled Lands and still come up with a base-destroying avatar of sorts.
So he’s not real because he… was really there? You do realize this is actually supporting evidence for my theory, right? Mortals come across a giant spider and name it “Zath”, meaning that is not it’s true name. A giant, godlike being housed within a temple, being only a fraction of the true power… where have I heard that before?
Oh yeah,
Even if you want to argue “Zath” isn’t a true god, there’s no mistaking a divinity behind the being. Perhaps the “Zath” killed in the story was simply an avatar, or demigod borne of the true spider-god, which there still is no definitive disproof of being Atlach-Nacha.
I don’t know what you’re talking about. There was no Zath, it was a fiction. You might as well call your fictional god ‘Shith’. 
So then was the entire book just a dream that Conan had? None of the events happened? There was no giant spider in the story about a giant spider? Are you sure about that?
This book is an excellent illustration of how scammers invent cults and impose them on people for their own selfish purposes.
There was a spider, but it wasn’t a god, it was just a giant spider-animal, isn’t it clear?
Dirty themed statues, carpets, tapestries, war paint and full armour sets would be nice…and something for Crom worshippers, it’s been 5 years.
I think you’re trying to interpret the story as an entirely fictitious metaphor for the real world. And while not invalid, that’s not the point of this discussuon. In the scope of the lore, Conan did battle a giant spider, which was revered by the people as a deity.
How would you explain it within the scope of the lore to exist? Did this giant spider just simply exist, completely detached from the established god of spiders, including giant ones? There’s nothing supernatural about that to you, in this universe of supernatural occurrences?
Right. There was no god Zath; he was invented by a sorcerer. There was no supernatural power separate from this animal. When the spider and the sorcerer were killed and the temple was destroyed, the cult ceased to exist, because it was not revered anywhere else.
I suggest we end here.
I will ask again,
I don’t understand what “scope of the lore” and “established god of spiders” means.
If you read the novel, you will remember that it says that the cult of Zath was celebrated in only one city. It subsequently turns out that the sorcerer invented it for his own personal purposes.
No other spider cults are involved in this case.
I think you’re trying to assign your interpretation of the story as fact, and anything that differs is incorrect. You still haven’t provided any further explanation beyond “it’s not real zath is a phony”.
I can tell this isn’t going anywhere productive so I will once again take my leave.
The fact that the Zath cult was invented by a sorcerer is clearly stated in the novel.
But, if you give an example of the action of a supernatural force under the name ‘Zath’ in Conan’s literature - that is, that a certain mystical spider Zath actually appeared from the other world in response to the calls of his admirers - then I will change my mind.