Devs must make the golems an exception somehow, but fixing this issue without enabling some unfollow/follow exploits seem difficult.
The easiest way would be at the perk level and just add a 1 time autofill function to HP at the follow stage.
Perhaps make it so that the thrall heals to full when put on follow, but this heal has a long cooldown (like 2 hours or more) to avoid exploits.
good point and even the long cool down, it would still exploit because you could just heal your golems. It would have to be a static % value additional (because a static number would just be golem healing) …hmmm this isn’t as easy to solve as I originally thought.
It sounds like a hack.
I think the damage done by explosive shots at golem gas is intentional. The vitality is nice, but it is just a shield until well done.
Got to stop them somehow if and when they turn.
Agree with @LostBrythunian. There is a lot more nuance to various encounters and setups than OP mentioned.
From what this one has heard their neighbour exclaiming, things that normally assist a thrall in the health department, improve the chances that the golem’s damage deflection occurs.
This is second hand anecdote tho.
I don’t know why, but I prefer War Party and using 2 veteran Tcho Tcho. Something about having 2x the massive AOE, Cone AOE attacks seems to melt just about any and every target you encounter. Especially if I can manage to keep aggro.
If you want to treat Arena Champ like a level 1 noob, get a katana and do light attacks to her. Just make your thrall dance in a corner to cheer you on. Hit her with light attacks, jog a slow circle around her to regen stamina and repeat.
Or, get the best thrall you can, with the best armor, level it to 20 and watch the Champ melt their HP like butter in a red hot frying pan.
I will not let my thralls fight her anymore.
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Agree, thralling and harvesting (with two bearers) are about the only reason I can see using the War Party perk. I guess it could be a means for fast leveling as well, but it’s not like leveling thralls or pets is particularly arduous anyway.
Two to three hours with either perk to level a thrall 1-20 on either map.
You know what well trained gets U. Talking with fear of a nerf. Teimos gets 1800hp to Delinsia 800hp. (give or take not actual numbers. ) Which puts Teimos back on the map and outperforming Del and Zerks. sure Del and zerks have better dmg but not by that much. So once again I bet they will nerf Teimos once again, but it is what it is. I’m still hoping WaK and FS will test my theories and get the definitive answer.
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Well at least they nerfed his spawn rate maybe 50% before nerf I would want Funcom to just make the mobs around him harder. Even with 50% spawn rate he is the easiest to get. my 2c
Maybe you want to consult my spreadsheet of thrall stats…
So no… Teimos is not better than either of those, the reason it used to be popular was the silly big HP and the fast leveling curve… his damage output is low compared to these though.
And RHTS is better than all of these.
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And I beg to differ. Teimos is ONLY viable in a authority build without that build he is useless. if one doesnt do that then well your completley right. IF FS and WaK tests it and I fail, then more power to U. The bottom line is my Teimos in an authority build has 8k hp, 45% str dmg 76% agility dmg. HP he wins the battle.
I have leveled over 15 Delinsias since 3.04. Prob more with zerks. And she doesnt compare in the stats to “MY” Teimos build. And considering how easy it is to get Teimos kinda make up the diff between others. The only other thrall that I have never had is the treasure seekers. cant comment on that. Keep in mind all my exp with any of these thralls were in single player.
So I will lay the gauntlet down if FS/WaK can test all of those in an authority build. I’d like to see it. have reached out to WaK and no reponse from FS.
So does your 60% str dmg on Del and 45+ on Teimos. Were does it end. In the same build tit for tat I think my Teimos will beat U.
One last reply. Have U tested all that yourself? Most people havent since the big Thrall nerf. HELL I didnt even play with Teimos after 3.0 when I saw his HP was like crap. Maybe I got lucky on my main Teimos haveing STR/VIT growth percentage was 100/90 (if memory serves.) each. could be the reason all I know. This is why I’ve talked with WaK, and FS doesn’t come out of his hole unless U subscribe to him. Which is very cool. When I start my new job, I will be giving a very well deserved Bounty to both of them. Bottom line is, Assuming same armor, same weap. I think teimos has a chance. He may not be in the #1 slot. But guarantee he’ll make the top 5 in this build. I’m sure u watched the FS and Wak testing of the top 10 thralls. no where was there any mention of teimos outside of the . Once again He’s ONLY viable in an Auth build, with well trained. Anything else he is quite useless.
BTW my Teimos caps out at pretty much 400 dmg on combo. maybe more.
And I may have missed it, but Teimos in an authority build, will destroy Del. Your speadsheet does not give Teimos credit. YOU WANT ME? i GUERNTEE i CAN give u a run for your money\
All I want is to have FS and WaK prove me wrong.
Both of them can get into any media they wish. WaK, FS you guys rock before anything I can say. please pursue your career Both of U are like completly just have the most presence that no one could deny. U guys just tell it like it is, and your very comf doing it. I pray U . #$#$# U guys just are perfect for these and hopefully your careers.