[Suggestion] Perma ban for land claim [Change]

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I would like to make a suggestion to change the current banning system for players that involves land claim motives.

Currently if a player receives a 3rd ban, it results in a perma ban that cannot be appealed in any circumstances (or so it seems)

I understand and agree 100% with always keeping hackers/glitchers banned because they are trying to exploit the game and other players.

My suggestion would be to continue the increase ban punishment instead of issue a perma ban for land claim bans.

Currently it is 1st offense - 7 days, 2nd offense - 1 month(?) and 3rd parma ban.

Before anyone says anything. Yes I am perma banned for land claim reports. While I take full responsibility for the
1st ban which was issue for too much building around the Crevice and players couldn’t get the “Crevice” landmark.
2nd ban for building 2 war pyramids near a rival clan base that we wanted to raid.

I tried explaining in my ban appeal that my 3rd ban was a mistake. I reported a clan for mass land claim spam and because I had a little shack somewhat near that clan land claim, the admin came online and deleted everything within the report and my little shack also got deleted and unexpectedly I received my 3rd ban which was perma ban.

I have tried many appeals to explain with the two vids that I have but without any luck to find any understanding.

Below is part of my ban appeal involving 3rd ban for those who are wondering.

My third ban that came was a surprise to me. I decided to switch to Siptah 6000 server just to chill. Only had a already raided base from when I played there before and some 2x3 sandstone with gibbets inside + a small pvp weapon stash for weapons.

I made a report on a clan that had land claim spammed and I was pretty sure it was against the rules to do what they did (you can see link video below).

The land claim spam I reported:
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Vid where my pvp outpost was with event logs that it was used and got destroyed at raid time. It was at the end of where the land claim spam was of the clan I reported above.
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The admin came online to handle the report (25 minutes right before raid time was over) I had a small pillar outpost where I was stashing some weapons for pvp. I could only assume that the funcom staff member that came online to handle the report considered my small pillar outpost as land claim to prevent others from building there even if it had a purpose. I was going to take it down after raid time but it was too late by that time.

I realize my wrongdoings and I wish one last chance to be allowed to play on official servers. It wasn’t intentional for me to have any spots blocked or such.

I am very sorry and wish that someone can review my ban appeal and please reconsider my ban. I have no intention of doing wrong and I just want to have some chill time on officials.

During my time playing the game I have tried to help improving the community by reporting any wrong doings(cheaters, land claims, etc), I have purchased all DLCs and alot of items from bazar from my love to this game.

So without any success in my ban appeals, I figured to try a shot at making a suggestion regarding how bans are handled for these types of punisments.

Thank you everyone.

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Might as well be talking to a brick wall… >.< This company is a joke… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VfNG_k5L0M&t=145s

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Yes, they are vague on giving any reason. I just know that my last ban was a rushed mistake and got banned because a little shack near the spam claim I reported.

After a lot of appeals trying to explain myself and even writing to mods, I got left for dead.

So I am trying to make this suggestion that instead of issue perma ban, keep issue longer and longer bans. 1 month, 2 months, 3 months, etc.

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I wish someone at funcom would consider some variation of this idea for dev wipes due to land claim. I’ve had several accounts permanently banned due to people on pvp servers being petty and reporting bases, two recent dev wipes were a mild 7500 piece watcher build and a literal 1k building piece fob outside of ice chasm. If I was hacking, undermeshing, etc. Then a permaban would be fair but to lose accounts due to people wielding the devs as weapons is kind of sad especially with the lack of players left even playing at this point.

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Yes.

I made so many ban appeals and even in the current state of the game with so many players leaving, they still refused to give me a shot. They keep replying with same over and over reasons.

I know what I was banned for. I wrote a big apology appeal and its land claim ban not hacking.

Hoping they will consider increasing the ban times rather than perma banning.

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:brazil: feedback Conan Exiles @Community

Isso não deverá ser considerado, você recebeu um aviso “BAN” e mesmo assim não leu as regras portanto essa sugestão não poderá ser aceita de forma alguma :nicowl:

Para informações e reclamações recomendo que entre em contato com o suporte ZENDESK
https://funcom.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

Confira as regras para nĂŁo levar BAN em servidores oficiais :face_with_monocle: @Funcom_Community

Confira também os clipes sobre as regras em Inglês (US/EN) e Português (PT/BR)

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Bro, we don’t need backseat modding. We read the ToS and we made ban appeals.

This is just a suggestion to change the ban for people who are perma banned for land claim reasons.

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Back seat moderation is how the system works.

The way the system is supposed to work is you stumble on a build you feel is a ToC violation. Now as vague as some parts are they are left open to real wide interpretations, that is why I like the screen cap examples. But you file your report, give screen caps of the violation, the block/builder info, screen cap of the place on the map.

Then the moderate reads the report, investigates, and take action.

But my experience this isn’t how it works. How it works is one clan spam reports another clan to get it banned so they can take all their goods, and building spot with out ever fighting.

Or your on PVE and repeatedly report some overtly obnoxious mega build with multiple ToC violations to get a “we so sorry, so busy, hope issue solved self byeee” email in a few weeks. Followed up be a “How’d we do” email. Oh ya, I’ve told them how they did.

Or some one gets a ban, has a fit, starts an alt, and reports every one the server because they don’t know who got them banned.

And funcom has made it abundantly clear what they are going to do about it.

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I know how the system works, probably everyone does.

I just made a suggestion maybe they switch from perma bans to lengthy bans when it comes to land claim bans since I know there must be others like me who got wrongly banned.

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The system and processes inherent in the all this, afaiac, need to be scrapped.

It’s been discussed quite a few times for both but 2 things I believe should happen: active moderation and have verification of your account.

I’m not going to beat the dead horse for active moderation; I think most of us participating here know the who, what, where, when, why and how for that.

But tying in your FLS account? Make it count. Make it have some integrity. I realize that many like the anonymity they have without being accountable this way, but how is Funcom to ensure the person using the account is doing what they’re supposed to AND if a report is filed, it is a legitimate report? They don’t, they can’t. I know it’s not a popular suggestion but many other games do it to protect the company, the individual player and the rest of the players too.

I can input a Zendesk report with any email I want, I can pick a random Funcom ID off any server I join. It should have never been this way.

It makes sense why they can’t warn and educate individual accounts. Their only means of informing for infractions is a TOC that is barely understood that happens before a report is even received and a message for after-the-fact action.

Reducing alts, hacking, cheating, gaming Zendesk and accountability could happen with this.

Don’t even get me started on gaming Zendesk though; there’s a couple of things happening with it that is reproducible, demonstrable and has been detrimental to the population.

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Funcom isn’t interested in suggestions from their community.

I mean. I’m interested in smart, logical, and good suggestions. But Funcom does not give a shaleback’s cloaca.

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I was thinking that if more players agree to the suggestion then they might actually change the way the system currently works.

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