it is not about asking for any specific item. It is not about asking them to change the way the battlepass works either. It is about making it clear when buying the battlepass or crom coins, that those items do not work like regular dlc items and are not available offline. If i had known that, i wouldn’t have spent that money for it. I do understand that my first post was confusing and i apologize for that.
i don’t think you are arguing for anything. You were just trolling because the first arguments you gave me made no sense, and that offended you. I never asked for funcom to change the game and the dlcs work offline contrary to the shop items. So you started to attack me personally.
The claim i made via ticket to Funcom directly was this. I ask them to simply edit the window pop up when asking for confirmation so that it also says something like
“please note that any item purchased in the bazaar or obtained via the battlepass are not available offline.”
I will also say that this game didn’t have an offline mod at the beginning. The reason why they implemented it much later is because they know there is a demand for it. If they managed to convert the entire base game and dlcs into offline, why wouldn’t they be able to do it with those specific items ? I just pointing this out for those who say it’s technical. This is not technical, it’s part of their monetization model, which is fine as long as they make it clear. I really don’t want them to change their bazaar or battlepass. Just make it clear so one doesn’t waste money for nothing.
Well i play on steam, and every single dlc i bought is available offline, including Siptah, Argos, Hyborian, Turan and Seekers of dawn.
Yes, that’s part of the core gripe.
The DLCs were bound to your account on the platform you play on.
The BLB and BP items are bound to a handshake between your account and the FLS system.
well i wouldn’t have any issue with that if it was clearly stated when making those purchases. The game used to be exclusively online. Which may be part of the confusion. That being said, many people already complained about this in the past and funcom simply doesn’t take a few minutes to edit a pop up window to had some clarity, leaving some people to buy something they wouldn’t have if it was made clear.
Partially accurate, the game was exclusively online for those on Steam.
It was never exclusively online for anyone on consoles.
As far as clarity, why would they do that?
If people understood the restrictions on their purchases (whether only available online, or if an emote cannot be used by a thrall) they might not purchase.
well because its dishonest to do so. If their reason to live it at that is to gain a few more bucks, they may end up actually losing. I can only talk for myself, of course, but in my case, i am not going to spend any more for funcom if they don’t make a change. By change, i mean just editing the window when buying croms to warn the player. Of course, me not spending more money wont change much, i am just one dude. So who cares. But i believe that more people do the same and move on to another game, they just wont express themselves on the forums.
It may not be entirely within Funcom’s control.
After they became a wholely owned subsidiary of Tencent, they were gifted with a “Monetization Expert”.
This one has made far too many jokes about how some of the behaviour since has seemed like the work of an inept Ferengi. Now this one is just tired.
So long as it makes enough money, it won’t change.
Even then, if it doesn’t make enough money, it still probably won’t change, the game will just be sunset and all remaining devs moved to Dune.
When Funcom launched Secret World, i was so in love with the concept and the game so i bought a life time pass, which at the time costed me around 400 Euros. Give or take. I played the game for a while and then, as it often happens, moved on to another game. A few years back, maybe 2 years. I went back to play the game but it had been “remade” into a free-to-play game on steam and was now called Secret World Legends. I installed the game, then looked to how transfer my lifetime pass to Legends from the original game. After some research i found out that Funcom only gave a small window of time for people to make the transfer. I then looked into the forums and saw that other people had been complaining about that but only got generic answers. So i used the European comission tools. I never had to call anyone. It was through some sort of chat window under the watch of a concelor or something like that. I made my case, and then they would contact Funcom, and someone from Funcom was answering in that same “chat”. It wasn’t a chat because it’s not live. The discussion was made over a few days. By the end, Funcom decided to activate my life time subscription and i was happy. Was it worth it ? Well, not really, the lifetime subscription is not that great and the game is dead anyways. But by principle it was.
yeah…i can actually see that happen. Though, i was surprised to see how many people still play Conan.
It is an exceptionally good game, wibbles aside…
With the potential to be a truely great one.
One that fills a couple of nitches at once.
You’re trying to tell us you stiffed by Funcom several years back, had to use government functions to get a resolution. Then decided to spend more money with them here with Conan Exiles? That doesn’t really make sense.
Telling you you’re wrong isn’t a personal attack.
I pointed out that in those thread you supposedly read it was explained why.
In order to get the battle pass and bazaar items to work off line funcom would have to change the game.
I kept trying to explain to you you only need to start your single player game online once to verify you own the items. But you “don’t care”.
You do get the way you buy the DLCs and the battle pass/bazzaar are completely different using different systems, right?
The bazaar is buyer beware. One of the reasons I refuse to shop.
The battle pass is pretty much a one time buy that continues to pay for it’s self.
What I was trying to say, is that you don’t buy only the crom coins. Not battlepass or the items. Crom coins working offline. You buy it and you get it. That’s all.
I don’t want to say you are wrong. They should give this information. But they are fine with that in most countries and platforms that provide this game
No, YOU DON’T CARE. and it’s funny, because you are actually assuming the same thing me and many others assumed, which proves my point. You think it only needs to be verified once and then the item is available in your playhtrough, just like in Assassin’s creed shop for example. Well, IT DOESN’T.
If you start your game, unlock the item in the battlepass or the bazaar, then craft an armor from the battlepass and wear it. Now close the game, go offline, and now open your game. You will see that the armor you are wearing is grayed and once removed, you can’t wear it anymore because it says " you are not entitled to this". Now you can do the same with the torch. It will be grayed and you can’t use it. Also, none of the recipes will be available. The items you place in the world will be there but you can’t craft more of them. The giant snake will be there and you can actually make him follow you but you can’t tame more of them. YOU CAN’T FULLY USE THOSE ITEMS WITHOUT A CONSTANT CONNECTION ! STOP ASSUMING AND JUST SEE FOR YOURSELF FOR F*** SNAKE !
Oh and by the way i am going to repeat this too. I AM NOT ASKING FUNCOM TO MAKE THOSE ITEMS AVAILABLE OFFLINE EVEN THOUGH THE ONLY REASON THEY AREN’T IS FOR MONETIZATION PURPOSE. I never asked for that in the ticket i made in parallel to this post. I understand, do to the original title and comment of this post, post that was addressed to Funcom and not to you users, that there may have been some confusion. I am sorry for that and edited the original post and title to make it more clear. What i am asking is for them to edit the confirmation window when buying coins so that it warns us that the items from the bazaar and the battlepass are not available offline. Because i made a purchase thinking it was one thing and it is another thing.
Those of us who say it’s technical know what they’re talking about. We’re not saying it’s impossible, we’re saying there are also technical reasons for why they don’t do it. And we’re also not saying that the technical reasons are the only ones.
If you’re curious about those technical reasons, you can ask, but simply asserting the contrary because you don’t know enough is not productive.
At any rate, I agree that there are important non-technical reasons for why they did it that way, and I also agree that they should warn the customers.
I believe what people like @DeaconElie were trying to say is if you start the game, let FLS verify you, then WHILE THE GAME IS RUNNING, go offline, you can still use your Battle Pass and Bazaar items.
In all honesty, I am not sure about that. At least in Europe chances are good that some stuff Funcom does with the bazar is not as legal as it seems.
Big studios like Tencent that have their legal residence outside the EU might not care much about regulations in the EU unless their business or money is in danger and mostly regular people/player doesn´t have the money and will to go to court and fight their rights through against such big companies but that doesn´t mean that what those companies are doing is right or legal.
Look at Valve for example. Counterstrike has an USK of 16. That means you can legally play it from the age 16 or above. Yet the game contains gambling. By german law of 2021 there are a bunch of strict laws and gambling regulations which include an regular ID check, advertising ban, deposit limits and so on. And: Gambling is not legally allowed in Germany under the age of 18.
There are also some serious regulations when it comes to prevent hate against minority groups, misogynie (hate against woman), hate speaches, terrorism and yet Valve does nothing to prevent this happening in CS and it happens a lot. You can ofc report players but yet I have so see Valve banning someone for it. I have seen several posts of woman on Steam complaining that they are getting harassed, threatened in the game and stalked and bombarded with hate commentaries on their steam profil afterwards. I myself witness this regularely in the game. I don´t report it anymore when I get shot in the head right in the game from random teammates after they find out beeing a woman through voice calls. Those complains on steam get closed and removed instead of seriously beeing investigated.
A lot of studios take their responsibilities very serious. Valve is not one of them. Do people go to court about it though? No. Because they have neither the money nor do they have enough power or influence to change anything. It always takes someone who is able to create some sort of media presence to force those companies to change something.