Hello,
I am interest in knowing where the discounts in the Bazaar Store come from.
Example:
Yamatai Tavern Set: 3,510 → 2,457
Have these items existed before in the Bazaar Store for the price of 3,510? Or are they fictional prices creating the illusion of discount?
I will never pay those prices or the sum of 500 coins for a freaking lantern. But I am interested in knowing if they engage in illegal pricing.
Sincerely,
Fictional. They’ve never been posted in the bazaar prior to the discounts. It’s just a way to promote the FOMO marketing tactic.
Thank you. That is interesting to know. I will contact relevant European, national and specific authorities (Australia) and help structure an overview of potential false pricing schemes. I have zero tolerance for this and even through it is a hard case, I believe both Australian and Scandinavian authorities will command a cease order. I am unsure about German law and how it is discussed there, but will report them over there nevertheless.
Whatever works. I think we all just would like to see lower prices in general. Some are pretty outrageous.
This is always hilarious to me when people say they’re gonna go speak to the government without fully understanding what it is they’re actually going to do.
The bazaar discounts are bundle discounts, when the items in the bundle are sold separately, the total number is how much you would pay for the items individually.
It’s not illegal for them to not have the items for sale individually all the time due to their limited rotating stock, but it is dumb. You don’t file a complaint with multiple government bodies because of a dumb mechanic in a video game. At best you’re wasting taxpayer dollars and time, at worst you yourself are committing a crime by manufacturing false complaints.
Hello and thank you for the explanation before I sent any complains further. So each of the items in the bundle(s) are also sold separately either soon or sometimes in the future? That changes things, and I was unaware of that bit of information until you enlightened me with your disdainful comment.
No, it is never a waste to report unethical behavior from anyone. It is also never a crime to attempt to report these types of behavior, because that would be utterly idiotic for any state actor. Also, the idea of “wasting taxpayer dollars and time” is quite the slippery slope. At worst nothing will happen and I will not learn anything, at best I will learn something and adjust my behavior according to that. If I or anyone for that matter, always had that attitude, no one would ever learn anything from institutions, because it is a waste (?) according to your logic.
Please stop saying this to people and let them report whatever they wish. It is up to the institution to handle these cases and up to them to decide, what can be built upon further and appoint cases of interest to higher echelons.
Don’t bother. Encourage them to do it instead. Its not like they have the gall to actually go through with it. That involves talking on the phone with a clerk which is heavy scary for most of them.
I think you should do it. Make the call BEFORE you reply to this. I have seen dozens of legal threats from players on here and no one had the gall to back up their word with deed. You’re not afraid are you? Don’t respond until you’ve spoken to a government official.
Then tell us what they said they will do.
I could be wrong here, but it’s not fictional. It’s not even a sale. It’s bundle discounted price vs the cost of each individual item from that bundle purchased separately.
Please use your passive-aggressive brain and read my comment from above: “That changes things, and I was unaware of that bit of information until you enlightened me with your disdainful comment.”
This means I did not know it was a discount based on each individual component of the bundle. I thank you for understanding this simple statement and not delve further into whatever chaotic territory, your brain are morphing inside your head based on an internet discussion. Seems pretty weird to be honest. But I still wish you a good day and ask you do not attempt to bait people into furthering your concept of “discussion”.
So what did the official say?
Or was this statement made falsely?
Yes and many thanks for that simple answer!
I was originally annoyed about the idea of false pricing and did not think proper or it could be based on modular pricing instead. It seems it triggers some people on these forums and must say it feels quite hostile in here. It was not my intention to trigger people and I will not do anything about this, because if it is modular-based, then it would be extremely hard to argue with. That doesn’t mean this behavior can be seen as proper or that these forums are moderated properly, when it seems quite common for people to create further hostility based on a minor one. I merely asked a question and received multiple answers with some time between. My reaction was based on those answers.
Jesus christ. Please follow the correct order of comments,
I based that on the first answer from imk1999:
“Fictional. They’ve never been posted in the bazaar prior to the discounts. It’s just a way to promote the FOMO marketing tactic.”
Then Jimbo gave me a better explanation of it:
“The bazaar discounts are bundle discounts , when the items in the bundle are sold separately, the total number is how much you would pay for the items individually.”
Which I then replied with: “That changes things, and I was unaware of that bit of information until you enlightened me with your disdainful comment.”.
I have a feeling you’re an pugnacious person and I do not get the feeling of you are a person up for discussion, rather it reminds me much more of attacking. Then let me remind you I have no intention of any eristic dialogue and please read my comments again, if you’re feeling attacked. As mentioned before, it was not my intention.
Very good, you retracted a less than ideal position.
The problem with all of this is: you guys are buying crom coins. What you guys choose to buy with your fictional currency after the fact no longer falls under governable actions. The only purchase that matters is the one made with your credit card. This is why when you ask for a refund for specific in-game purchases, Funcom refuses and offers the suggestion to take it up with Microsoft or Sony or steam. If you do that, their only course of action is to get a refund for your purchase off crom coins. And we all know how that goes: negative crom coin balance = being banned from playing the game.
That seems like something a reasonable and not insecure nor someone with a form of complex would write. This exchange of words has been weird and I accept my own part in it for starting the hostility, but jesus christ, you are a champion of escalation and not a sign of a healthy community. I would much rather a moderator made me reformulate my words to a less hostile rhetoric, than someone with your intentions. Because I assure you, I had a lot of ego trying to further escalate your pointless rhetorics, because they too were triggered by it.
You should attempt to de-escalate discussions bordering on aggressions from new users (like me). Instead of answering with disdain and aggression, which only enhances the already hostile environment, which you are an active component of.
I am sorry for starting this and therefore I will also end it. I will not do anything of the sort, because my own short-circuit thinking did not properly think before acting (writing this thread). But that does not mean other people should feel empowered by their own faulty thinking and behavior, which you are a part of again.
Thank you for further detailing it. I agree, it is like that in most countries. But not all, look at Australia and countries in Scandinavia to be more specific.
As an individual I will apologize to you for causing you distress. However I don’t apologize to a group of people (whom I will not consider you to be apart of from here on out) who think its funny or cute to make legal threats. Hence my more somewhat aggressive posture.
I cannot in good faith comment on the general tendencies of this community as I am not an active participant, but I am always happy to end on a good note and would never ask for an apology to an unknown group of people. Nor would I ask you to apologise for a discussion I have started, as that would not be proper etiquette. I thank you for respecting our discussion and hope you’re having a good new year, while enjoying some Conan.
My opinion: fictional.
Sometimes, they republish the items/bundles, for the same price as the first time (without forgetting their fictional discount), or for a higher price (still fictionally discounted).
Sometimes, they inovate, creating a new bundle out of items from different bundles, with a new price and its new fictional discount.
Contrary to what people said, I do not think the bundles’ prices and their “discounts” are based on what the price would be if you were to buy the items on their own, but I could be wrong too. It feels to me that they are adjusting the prices on the go. If it sells, then it becomes more expensive, and the discounts are irrelevant.
Why do I think so?
Because July 2022:
Then November 2023:
From what I can tell, it is very tricky.
Some other items are sold in a way it could confirm the bundle discount theory though.
Example:
I bought the market stall. It is, just the stall on its own. 760cc.
Then, I had to buy the veggies. 700cc (deduction made from what I own of the bundle, or people say so).
Since 760+700 = 1460, we could give the benefit of the doubt to the theory that the 700 is a discounted price due to being part of the bundle.
1760-1460 = 300cc sale on the veggies.
So the actual worth of the veggies, sold on their own, would be 1000cc, with that theory.
We swim in shady waters with this Bazaar. In the end, only buy considering the price it is sold to you the moment you buy it, thinking only of if you are ready to buy it for that price, that’s all.
This one recalls we compared some notes about a bundle and loose set of items once.
Was it the spear enthusiast bundle?
We found what the base rate for each spear was and what the bundle rate was.
The base rates do appear sometimes, if something, such as an armour set, is sold stand alone it is almost never discounted.
Are the base rates fictional?
Yes, but also yes.
We are transacting with funny money for the permission to maybe use pixel arrangements. The prices are made up because none of this can ever have any objective value as it’s purely in game assets licenses.
The only rates that are real are the price of Chrome Coins, and even that can be dodgy. If one buys during a sale one may later be banned for it. So how much is your money (which used to be your time) worth, especially if it impacts your ability to engage in the recreation tour traded it to enhance?
