Ban/Suspension shouldnt be as easy

I’ve had a few recent engagements with equally skilled and geared players ending in GG. It was nice. An acknowledgement of the experience and respect for each other.

The rest are a mixed bag. Like a new player to a server getting angry they get steamrolled after their first strike… then complain you have too much power? Or the ones that think you’re hacking because they lost… very common and is much of just lack of game sense. If they’re in the know then comes the threats of reporting.

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In a perfect world ya. But there will always be different kinds of people. Like you pointed out, some people have problems with accepting, improving and understanding. Of course there’s the trolls too, the manipulators, the sociopaths.

But ultimately the true meat of all of this is in how Funcom is handling and communicating with its player base. People like me and my friends, acquaintances, Boobie, Palm and many others who have come here and beyond for answers. I feel confused, quite helpless and slightly doomed no matter how hard I try to simply play. I shouldn’t feel this way. I feel punished for supporting this game.

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First time yes, 100% understand why, learned from it and moved on. We added a new clan member who refused to accept the new ToC and we were rightfully banned for allowing it to continue. That was 3 days and 1 base devwiped.

Second and third time we were in the middle of a war. Keep in mind if you have been paying attention to my comments that we have done everything possible to keep in line. Preceding the climax of it were threats from the opposing clan that they were going to report us regardless of our situation. Then they got devwiped and banned along with 3 other clans on the server. They came back on alts and reported us twice because they think we reported them. They’ve admitted here and elsewhere that we did nothing wrong but were attempting to show the community that there is a problem with the report system. The supposed “report/ban meta”. In all, that server had 10 clans affected by devwipes and bans in about 1.5 weeks.

When we put in a ticket to find out the actual reason why we were banned it was a repeat of the ban message, no explanation, no reasoning, no clarity.

One of my clan members was permabanned throughout all this after they were released from the 14 day ban. Another clan on the server was bragging that they reported us. He’s in the process of appealing but it’s not looking good.

Since all of this I know a few people who have ran tests on inconsequential random bases and those have been devwiped. I’ve also noticed that reports are taking longer to be addressed; specifically in regard to the resurgence of the hacking problems. Is Funcom listening? I don’t know, maybe?

I’ve added my voice to the group of players airing their grievances and will continue to speak on it.

Now I am barely playing. We were hack raided twice in less than 2 weeks and our initial report to Funcom with video evidence of the hacks took many emails to nudge them to even do anything finally by 15 days. Which means nothing in the end when you consider that alts are easy to come by and there are free 3rd party hacks.

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You’re most likely right. Since we already know that they have to prioritize things and that they’ll sometimes leave something waiting to be prioritized, the fact that they didn’t drop everything else to focus on fixing this issue as quickly as possible probably means that they looked at how big the portion of affected playerbase is and decided that it can wait until higher priority work is done.

Yeah, no. They’ve proven the contrary, on numerous occasions. But, as usual, when there’s a slice of community that has a problem that isn’t being solved, they tend to think and say that Funcom doesn’t give a damn about the community at large.

Yes, they can. The world we all live in is full of such rules.

Beyond whose doubt? Yours? Theirs? Everyone’s?

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Then you have a choice of waiting forever for your wish to come true or quitting the officials. :man_shrugging:

They are not going to remove all ambiguity from the rules just because a handful of people like you are unable or unwilling to realize that in the adult world rules always have a certain degree of interpretation.

Clarifying the rules so most people can be expected to understand them if they take the time and effort to think about it? That’s something that they can and should do. Get rid of all nuance and discretion and judge only according to the letter of the rules without regards for the spirit of those rules? Anyone who refuses to play without that shouldn’t be allowed on the official servers anyway.

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And I don’t know how many times I have to remind you to read what you’re replying to. Or indeed, what you yourself wrote.

All that you wrote here is stuff that has been discussed and acknowledged, here and in other similar discussions. I’ve already agreed many times that they should make the rules clearer and more accessible, and that they should give people useful feedback when they request it

But what you want – or at least, what you keep saying you want – goes much, much beyond that, into the realm of unreasonable, and when people like me tell you that it’s unreasonable, then you resort to pointing out stuff we already said we agree to.

We’re all tired of something. For example, I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one here who’s tired of the whole “fUnCoM dOeSn’T cArE aBoUt CoMmUniTy” temper tantrum, and yet we somehow manage.

As for letting Funcom use the term, here you are:

It’s right there, at the top of the rules. They said it.

This brings to mind something you said once…

Not yet but unfortunately the only way to open everyone’s eyes is to play the devi. I noticed you are on PlayStation so now has come the time to prove the point.

funny, same here, it happened the same to us, we were hackwiped 2 times in less than 24 hours 3 days ago in 2 different officials, it was quite spectacular, and i understand we made a lot of enemies but its hard to imagine that it was the same person, maybe he was, maybe he wasn’t.

Me and our clan love this game, we love the war, we play to win, and we live for those moments of adrenaline you have when you win but specially when you are at the verge of defeat but manage to survive somehow. we could say that we are addicted and we need medical help.
we don’t play to report the other and call it a day and not play the game.

my point is, that we cross many obstacles to play this game, from having to deal with undermesher,exploiters people with flying bases to the limits to even tolerating some hackers.
i call them “soft hackers” those who have the basic speedhack,hitting from outside and far.
all while at the same time you are trying to have a base that support a war effort that needs to be protected and trying to not get banned in the process.

But then you add the actual hackers who can see everything, your bodyvaults, your chest, were you are, enter ghost mode, destroy your bed, destroy your base, loot your body, your chest without having to destroy them,ect ect
How you defend vs that?
How are you supposed to play the game if you have to deal with ALL and expect us to keep playing?
and no, privates are NOT an option because the admins are either idiots or simply p2w admin abusers who do to you the same that a hacker would do.

this game to me is fantastic and i think i have almost 5k hours.
i did not get bored and i don’t think i will ever will.
but the current state is UNPLAYABLE to me. and all i want is to keep playing.

currently it does feel like you are punished for playing fair, almost is that if you don’t cheat you cannot play.
you are either admin wiped by random reports doing nothing wrong.
or you are hack wiped by hackers.
is so sad to me see the state of such an amazing game.

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i think i can pit yhis whole mess to a rest.

Those that are confused or want to know the “lismit” and rules should be, instead of just pointing out the imconsistancy of bans, give what you believe should be the hard limits? I mean anyone can b1ch and moan about a problem, but if you dont have a suggestion for the issue, then you are blowing hot air into the fire. Until then you are basically being a “Karen”.

This is something that exists only in imagination.
NO PLAYER is capable to defend Funcom, no player!!!
Funcom doesn’t need our protection, just our feedback, for protection Funcom pays employees to do so, not players!!!
Players who think that they can defend Funcom are wrong, most they can do is damage!
However, you cannot blame someone if he feels fanatic with a game or with a team or his religion or whatever. It a choice that everyone can do and it’s respected. You can always choose for your self not to be fanatic with anything and others should respect that too. Yet respect is something that you gain because you first apply it!
If you apply respect and won’t gain then it’s not your fault any more but you cannot demand it, all you do is keep position, a respectful position always !
Time will do the job always.

It’s true that sometimes low experience or prejudice can lead to false conclusions, yet this is totally human. I try always to keep a positive stand, it doesn’t help me to do other. I come here to chat about my favorite game and relax. When I feel I can help I happily do it, when I actually help I am really happy, really happy!
I wish we didn’t have to throw stones to each other to some posts, it’s pointless fellow exile, totally pointless.

@Boobie, don’t come yet, Marcos base has nothing to report yet and it doesn’t cause issues even to my pathetic console, when the time comes he will understand it him self now there’s nothing to see than a beautiful pve decorated house. He hasn’t stacks, no exploits, no torch abuse nothing. Not yet :wink:

By all means, no problem from my side :man_shrugging:.

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Oh not that it helps the conversation at all but the clan that foundation claimed popular build sites 3 months ago and got enforced on is doing it again…after loosing all of their stuff the first go around, they are doing it again…and new players are coming in and logging out when they see it because there is no point of there are clans like that on the server. It’s been zendesked but there are folks that dense playing and refusing to change their illegal tactics. These folks are the ones that are confusing the whole problem.

Well @stelagel hes already admitted to using one exploit right out the door. No stacks no exploits no torch abuse. You guys are really far behind the reality of the issue of you think this is what’s getting everyone banned.

I never said I would do it. Maybe I will maybe I won’t or maybe someone else will see this and do it themselves. I will however not give you the luxury of a warning.

You’ll find out I’m sure at some point but like I said I didn’t say I would do it. now the option is on the table if someone decides to. I have still never reported anyone to this day even my biggest enemy’s. Reporting typically gets done by weaker players who can’t win on their own so they use the Cheesy way out.

I Have given many things away happens on pvp as well. I would imagine it happens a lot more on pve but that’s not the difference I see. The one I see is a lot of pvers are still building monster bases and pooing all over the map because the rules haven’t been enforced for them. I picked 5 severs, looked around and this is exactly what I noticed. You won’t see this on pvp anymore maybe 1 out 5 but all and all it’s widely known on pvp to keep it small and to the point.

You can wait and see if you get reported just like the rest of us. Test over

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It can still easily be done on alt accounts.

You are right, I am, you know better :+1:t6:

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Are you saying that there is a problem and now since we’re not giving suggestions it doesn’t warrant discussion?

Let me know if my understanding is correct.

You can’t unless you hack against them. We know that enforcement of Zendesk is too late to have an effect and won’t solve the problem anyway.

And many of us do NOT want to go that route.

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No, I am saying it easy to cast stones, harder to build the house.

Ok, so people are wrong in their assessment of how Funcom is handling it? Sorry I’m not sure the point you’re trying to get across and just trying to understand.

And you have yet posted what you think the solution actaully is. Like what would shut everyone up. A post from FC saying " Shut up and get over it", or " x amount of space is acceptanle". What is YOUR solution. Because i really believe FC could post actial hard info, and the same Karens would still post how that it is unfair to have that limit. Again solutions, or all the angry posts are nothing more than having a leaf blower on a frozen lake…useless.