Just like the title says, can we please have ladders slower stamina needed to climb them as they do support your weight with the leg rungs. Also, can we also get some item lifts ?
Item Lift : A platform attached to a string and sometimes pulley system to lift heavy loads up to another platform or level.
That would be great, or actually let us climb them like Ark does.
Do ladders work ok now have not used one for years.
If you want a very narrow wall to climb, but that can only attach to a very specific type of ceiling piece, then the ladder works.
Does it work like a ladder in the world we live in?
No, not really.
Same stamina use and slippage as any other surface in the game.
But they are a thin climbable surface.
This one hasn’t noticed the ladders losing stability and shattering everytime the server spins up anymore. That problem seems to have been fixed. Still, for best results, it may be prudent to make the top and bottom surfaces the ladder interacts with both hatch frames.
I think they should simply allow stamina regeneration on them at a slower pace if you stop 
After all you can go halfway up a ladder and rest there without exerting barely any force.
Exactly.
I think it’s a bad idea. Do we really want ladders all over the place like in Death Stranding? You would be promoting that by doing this. And for ladders around your base it doesn’t matter either way.
Ladders are fine how they are.
No, and I will tell you why.
When you climb a ladder you are open to attack on pvp and pvp-c servers.
Elevators are faster than ladders for long climbs.
Many would not like the look of ladders on the outside of their bases.
Ladders have low hp which is good for destroying for base defense is also bad for base defense in that others can break them too and then you can’t use them until replaced (especially if you are on the ground and need up to somewhere).
This is just a few of the reasons.
Reasons for what? None of those address anything meaningful.
But but…
Then you are not reading them apparently as it perfectly clear. If you still after reading them again (actually for the first time I suspect) you have an issue with them maybe you could state why they don’t address anything “meaningful” instead of just dismissing without any reasoning or suggestions.
Why would I spend time addressing the illogical? Others can see for themselves they don’t make sense in context.
So agreed, you have no arguments against the statements.
They are perfectly logical and plainly stated. I am sorry if they don’t make sense to you and would welcome you to state again why you think they , with points (reasons why/why not), are illogical and make no sense. Otherwise I will have to just assume that they only make no sense to you.
What everyone must understand is that ladders, if they worked with any verisimilitude, would be OP. They are such a useful tool for ascending steep inclines. So versatile, so fundamental in the siege. Introducing ladders with any realism would destroy the PvP meta in ways that an Ice Bridge welding Feroxic Daggers or a Travel Bat with it’s own bow and explosive arrows could only dream.
There could be fragile wood ladders, easily destroyed with a single swing of a mighty weapon (or a single stab from daggers, but no matter). Then upgraded wrought iron ladders, much more durable, but probably would have to snap to building pieces rather than be mobile. Also, heavy AF. Then, there are black iced ladders, very strong, but also slippery… that might be a bad idea…
But Eldarium!
That is what we could make telescoping aluminum weight ladders out of!
This one is, of course, jesting about the advanced ladders.
However, the purpose ladders serve in this game is questionable at best. Especially as they are building pieces rather than placeables…
What do the do that isn’t done just as well with a wall?
This one saw rumours from antiquity (before the pandemic) that originally ladder climbing was to have it’s own animation (that seems a bit much, but neet) and not cost stamina/discount stamina (sorta half the purpose of having a ladder).
Um, I meant ladders in ones own building and landclaim not for sieging a building. Sorry for the mix up.
No mix up.
Internal ladders sorta suck. But the suck is for the same reasons they cannot be used in PvP. The snap mechanism is needlessly obtuse and the stamina cost for climbing is the same as just climbing the bare wall.
True. I meant to make the ladders better for base climbing so to have more options than elevators and stairs for multilevel or high up bases.
WTH kind of build are you running that you don’t have the stamina to climb a ladder?
Irrelevant and beside the point of the post. I did not say I did not have the stamina to climb a ladder .
What I did say is that ladders should require less stamina to climb them . The reason for this is that your feet and through them your weight on a ladder is more supported than free climbing would be, thus the less stamina should be required (used) when climbing them than free climbing. Logically it would require less effort/energy/balance/strain (stamina) to climb a ladder than it would to free scale a flat wall surface. What the suggestion was that the game reflect this.
Would already be nice if climbing ladders was just a tiny bit faster >u<
At the moment I only place them for decorative purpose, because if you want to go up fast in your base a wall without a hatch door is still much smoother too use than a ladder (imo)