Having been very vocal in the forum for a long time, I accepted the invite to the discord and although there are also people in that channel, I have clashed with here in the forum, up to now I only see attempts to provide positive feedback and genuine interest in the game.
It is a fact that a lot of meaningful posts in here get derailed all the time and we bash each other in here, vent frustration and things just are unstructured.
Again, as Kiki invited people to join, what prevents you to join and see the discussions first hand and if it is as you believe it is, you can leave anytime.
What do you have to loose?
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I applaud you Sir
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I can agree with this too.
The forum is open and free to voice criticisms without fear of being repressed just because the onesâ running it disagree with you. I havenât seen any guarantee that the discord channel would do the same.
People have criticized the previous focus groups and closed beta teams for being just a select few and only giving FC praise. This isnât true, in fact those groups quite frequently disagree on topics and direction very often but stay respectful.
The issue with starting a group under the criteria in the OP is that it will be a hyperfocused group of a few that doesnât include people from outside the forums or general server communities frequented by the ones who started said group. While it advertises as being open, it is moderated by a small select group. It would be different if they offered detractors a role in moderation and decision making for the discord server itself (and no, donât offer it to me, I donât do the discord mod thing). This way it would ensure impartiality.
But again I personally believe its redundant. We have an open forum. It would be nicer if we came together in the forums and made a pledge to discuss topics without vitriol, ad hominem attacks, and passive aggressiveness towards one another or towards Funcom. Because I am sure that fans of the game, we can find some common ground.
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but create a discord where you not allowed to dislike anything is not a good way to create a unity
and thts why we have the forum so we can talked about things
So far anyone in the group is also posting here with his/her own account, it is not an either or thing. But I like the idea to structure requests and do a consildated feedback here. So far I donât see any elitism there, hell they even invited me and I am not a member of any prestigious clique in here 
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Except that this VIP and nonVIP class distinction already exists - there is already a hand picked group that Funcom listens to - @Taemien has mentioned them many times (Iâve never been clear whether or not he is a member of this test group - but it is quite clear they exist)
I hate Discord as a platform, which is one of the three key reasons I gave to @Kikigirl for giving up on trying to be a part of this group - but I am glad they are at least still trying.
It is also worth noting that the primary person objecting to this group existing just happens to be one of the people that runs the âConan Exiles Discordâ (also unofficial) - it couldnât possibly be that there might be a fear of losing some of the accumulated power/influence that comes from that?
100% agreement. But, as mentioned, there already exist specific small groups that have a disproportionate influence over the direction the game takes - so I see no problem with this group (which will not include my opinions either) being added to that list (which wonât happen anyway because the group selected itself, they were not pre-approved by Funcom).
Yes - I used to believe that was true - but Funcom has made absolutely clear that the Forums are the bottom of the communication barrel - donât forget the poll not so long ago that wanted to know âWhere do you get your information about CEâ and then offered a choice of Facebook, Discord, TikTok or Twitter. If they canât even be bothered to include the Forums (or their âcontent creator partnersâ on YouTube or Twitch) in a poll, does it really suggest this is a place they are actually listening to?
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I look critically at things, but try to be open to constructive approaches.
I would hope fro some activity that brings this game to a sort of stable state and not more and more game breaking bugs.
It may be futile, but at least I can say, I tried to help
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You can be a member of both servers. In fact, I would recommend being part of multiple servers to get the full community perspective. Iâm in four community discords and multiple others for servers and mods.
My time moderating that discord has seen a lot of these familiar faces land themselves in trouble with us in the past for various things. I donât want to name names but of the people in their community, two have been outright banned for devolving into personal attacks aimed at the developers and one who very kindly called me the N word.
So now that this group is organizing, youâll have to forgive my skepticisim based on their past actions.
As far as I am aware all of our interactions have always been amicable.
However - your statement here rather proves the point I have been making in this thread - you are already a member of a pre-selected group whose opinions are given more weight than other players. I see no reason that other players should not have the same right as you do to at least try to make their voices heard. I know my voice has seemingly never been heard - and this group will not help with that (through no fault of theirs) - but it would be nice to think that Funcom is capable of listening beyond itâs little selected âfocus groupsâ. Because if it carries on only listening to these limited groups, then in the end you risk ending up as the only ones still playing.
Was already typing this as your reply came up - so answers from this point also relate to your most recent -
I could - and to the best of my knowledge am still a member of several (this new group included) - though not I think the main discord group (I honestly donât remember, whether I joined it or not - I may well be a member) as noted I truly dislike discord as a platform, so use it as little as I possibly can.
Iâm aware of one of those banned (and they are another of the reasons I am not an active member of the group), but I am also aware that many of the groupâs members are not people who have caused trouble anywhere. Having a more negative opinion of the current state of the game does not inherently make anyone a hater (to try to put a term on it) - as recently as today (or maybe yesterday - itâs been a long day) I posted in defence of the devs, despite my deep disappointment in the current state of the game. This update was the first in the entire âAgeâ cycle that was supposed to bring anything to the game that was of actual interest to me as a player - and yet the result is that after the lukewarm-fix (hotfixes are quicker) I uninstalled and now have only a vain hope that maybe one day this game will be something that I consider worth playing again.
I can understand your scepticism based on past actions of some individuals (who will hopefully be held back from such actions by the others in the group) - can you understand why some of us are equally sceptical about Funcomâs will/ability to get the game to a functioning level? Because I can assure you it is also based on past experience, and being repeatedly ignored, no matter how polite and well reasoned.
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It might not be worth anything and that is what it is. This is an effort but like I said in an earlier comment, I donât think anyone who has participated in the group discussions so far has illusions that magically everything is just going to snap into some idealistic scenario.
What is in the OP really was a positive effort from those who came together.
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The only question I can really answer at this time with certainty is that the company is not sponsoring anything weâve done.
The rest are good questions that can have an array of answers, or canât be answered at this time without data or more cohesiveness.
Itâs mostly hope in a vision, in opening up the lines, pulling everyone together, providing positive feedback and allowing any player to join in the effort.
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Thanks Jimbo, threadâs been flagged 
But then that was the intention wasnât it?
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Your concerns are valid. Right now yes, there are only 2 moderators. There have been discussions about having more, 100% for impartiality.
The rules are simple and the first being to be nice, while this isnât to the letter of what your expectations describe, it is encompassing that. There are others that touch on it though.
In addition, there is a rule about no personal attacks, including against Funcom staff. This is important and was included in the first draft of those rules.
I donât even agree with everything said there but sure as hell would never silence anyone. You already know my thoughts about a great many subjects as weâve had discussions in the past. I have not personally experienced a good many of the issues presented in the OP, but, it was imperative that there be voices from those groups.
The links provided up until today have not been limited other than time and anyone was free to give it out. The reason we didnât say much of anything before is because we wanted to have goals and a mission put together first. The purpose of this post was: explain what weâre doing, why, who, what, where and to provide key points, suggestions and background of those points as well as an invite for others to join. A lot of this was put together from information from multiple sources (forums, reddit, facebook, other discords) - not only our individual thoughts.
As for the forums, and while I agree with you, I personally find it hard despite my experience participating here. Itâs not that it is difficult necessarily, but much can be missed unless youâre on top of it. Itâs the nature of the setup and webpage, is what it is. In addition to that, of course its the internet, so the thought was to bring people together on the same page.
Anyway, youâre free to join or not join the discord, either way is fine.
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Letâs not.
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How do you see the thread is flagged?
and why would it be?
One person flagging isnât enough to take down a post. However, multiple flags are - like the ones that took down my reply.
If I wanted to silence this thread, I would not be engaging with it. I havenât directly asked anyone to stop commenting, unlike others on this thread; nor do I intend to.
I think it is a âlegitimateâ effort, but a bad idea.
Every single time something like that existed, for a simple and obvious reason, it becomes another âvocal minorityâ who deviates the game from what someone else wants.
While some cultures might regard those âresembling liberal democracy effortsâ as inherently good, what all âCounselsâ turn into is a mouthpiece for an echo chamber.
You can name the game that as a âgroup of playersâ, they all became very quickly another things the other players complain about.
There is a phrase people cheer but they do not care to find out where it came from:
âEither you die a hero, or live enough to become the villainâ.
This phrase was butchered from an ancient proverb from the middle east that says:
âEither you die righteous, or live enough to see evil you wrought.â
Anything you do, no matter what, will not be universally good. As you gather people to âdo some goodâ along your own lines, you amplify the spectrum of those who dislike what you are doing.
When the devs are the only ones deciding where THEIR GAME go, it is fine, they have an idea, they have a focus. When âconsumersâ start to call for âstuffâ on their own terms, the thing start to derail.
There is already a place for bug reporting, and people do it. There is already a place for feedback and people do it. We dont need a âadvocacy groupâ to speak for us. We speak for ourselves.
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Why has this post been flagged as negative? I understand Funcom feels like we are a bunch of torch and pitchfork wielding angry villagers. We need something to encourage constructive dialogue. Iâve been spicy but out of frustration and feeling like I was talking into a vacuum. I am all for something that will bring about better communication.
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That flag is set by people, not Funcom.
That is why people dislike these things. Basic misunderstanding of what things do always motivate hateful speech people direct towards Funcom.
