Couple of my bases just randomly disappeared

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I am very sorry this happened to you. The inconsistency of enforcement is galling. I have been doing two-ish week long playthroughs on public servers while we wait for the game to become stable again. On every server there are massive bases that obviously violate rules but there is no enforcement of the rules without a report.

This sets up the situation you have described. Bases that are aggressively outside the build rules are left alone. Bases that are subjectively fine to one admin but in violation to another are wiped. There are no warnings and no recourse which makes even this laughably vague set of rules no more effective than a high school popularity contest.

My speculation is that several folks on the server got together to report you while your report was a single voice. Admins reviewed the most noise rather than following every report.

My response to my ban was to abandon long term play on public servers because, no matter how long we are on a server, no matter the friendships we’ve forged and shared experiences we’ve had, it only takes one asshat to join and use the reporting system as a weapon.

Best of luck.

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And this needs consideration from Funcom! I know it’s not easy, but they must find a way.

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Excess land claim is a rule.

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When late summer crests it will be 4 years since they’ve implemented the ToC and organized enforcement.

If you recall, players came forward in winter 2021 that something was wrong, that the ToC and Zendesk were being used exploitatively. The forums and other social media met these players with ridicule and mistrust.

It was determined that volume of reports are guaranteed action; it is now enshrined in the current iteration of the ToC: “For each report we receive, we try to collect as many reports as possible from the specified server and investigate each report individually and hold reports of each type to the same standards. This helps us to maintain context for how play is developing on the server. It allows us to take a broader and more holistic approach to how we apply suspensions and bans.”

Those that remain despite sweeping changes to the game, lack of communication, no clear vision, inconsistent enforcement on Officials, allowing the spaghetti code to become a mountain of knots, thumbing the nose at the modding and niche communities that keep the population numbers up… come to understandings. Until someone gets pissed off and will use the weapon that is the ToC and Zendesk to their benefit for real or imagined violations.

The ToC, it’s enforcement, the effect it had on me and my clan by players that were attempting to demonstrate its holes and exploitative nature, drove my decision to not purchase one thing from the BLB or participate in the BP. It inspired my own conquest to get down to the bottom of why things happened the way they did. I got answers and became incredibly disgusted and irate. Imagine. I would have been a whale. There’s quite a few of me.

Now I have to play, when I do, in such a way as to leave no trace of my existence despite adhering to the ToC, just in case some spiteful asshat decides that I hurt their ego in some way, or imagine that I cheated, or didn’t like the way I built, or, or, or, or.

Notwithstanding OPs situation, they did break a rule. But there’s better ways like just removing the damn offending build with an educational notice and call it a day. They get educated, they still get to play and might learn from it. Once set up the same amount of energy would be expended.

So for 4 years we haven’t had the impact in finding a way to sway the powers that be to have more consideration of their own playerbase. The very players that are potential continued revenue. I just don’t see anything happening now; look at how things are.

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Where exactly?

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Good question, but I have read people saying that is what they were banned for.

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No, there isn’t. It’s empty apart from some leopards.

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Those “Gatehouses” had no gates. No gate frames. Just arched doorways. I dislike using gates, they’re too difficult to place - not worth the trouble to get right, when I don’t actually need to close gates.

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“Excess” is relative.

The island he’s speaking of is relatively small.

Also, they’ve made it clear just size isn’t a reportable offense. Loss of performance due to size maybe but not purely size. Land claim made up of purely pieces strung together for no reason other than claim, that reaches beyond your base, yes.

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the really idiotic part is, that some of these rules can be passively enforced by restrictiong building mechanics. Like building from a certain “center” item. A limited number of building parts/placeables or make building around POI impossible.

but you know…FUNCOM

They rather have griefing players and disgruntled players apparently.

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Explain that to people banned for excessive land claim. I mean can “excessive land claim” be anything other then claiming an excessive amount of land?

And once again, just how much server acreage do you think is yours to pave over?

This has always been my issue with big builds. It’s not a lag thing. On my end a lot of ornamentation causes lag, on the server {IMO} it’s excessive storage.
If your build is causing lag just by sheer size it would have to be massive and far beyond what anyone would call reasonable.

You mean like a land claim flag that would allow you to build how ever you want in side the claimed area? One that would not allow to to set it down if a POI was in it’s claim area?

I honestly don’t think funcom is capable. I mean hell, that can’t manage to turn an event on and off with out some issue.

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When you own a land you shouldn’t and round a poi, even if it was simple foundations on the ground, you would be banned too.
Do not assume that a random admin from Zendesk knows you or your intentions, he - she doesn’t.
And again, i don’t fond ban for building and that’s exactly the reason i never report for these reasons
And since the beginning of this system a particular member in here named @Ragnaguard was shouting for warning before ban and i was hoping that they’ll consider this option.
If someone from Zendesk would send you a message…

Dear fellow exile @Mojojojo0, your builds x-y-z are considered violation to our system please remove or we will have to suspend you

… Wouldn’t you remove them?
I believe you would and although you wouldn’t be happy, you wouldn’t be as sad or mad you are right now.

They have to understand that this game is practically blocks and dolls, so people want to place more blocks and dress more dolls.
Yes official servers meet standards and not exaggeration.
Yes official servers are a courtesy for free gaming.
But the people who play in there now, is spending a lot on bazzar. So although the coffee is free, cookies are not and people buy many of them.
So a better treatment on the people who help the lights to stay on, wouldn’t be bad!

Again @Mojojojo0, i am sorry you had to go through these shi.t.

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You and I have always been pretty much in agreement on these things so I don’t think we’re really not agreeing …

But, there’s a difference between “land claim abuse” and just having a big base.

For example, if you build a castle, with an outer wall, and space inside said wall for animal pen and altars etc, and inside the castle it’s big enough for every bench to have it’s own room inside the main building, that’s a BIG BASE but it is, in essence, a base.

That is “base size”

Whereas, ABUSE of the land claim system, is laying out lines of foundation or fence foundation along the rest of the grid square simply because you don’t want neighbors. It is not part of your base, but “meant to prevent others from building” (the rule itself.)

The issue is people think they can put a stable (or other nonsense) every nine foundation lengths and it’ll count as part of their base. It’s those people who get the hammer for land claim abuse.

There’s a difference

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Agree. I think it’s the terms, when I refer to a base as huge, I mean mega.
If it can’t be described as paved acreage it’s not a mega base.

But “everything in moderation”.
Do you need all 4 armors benches, or would a T2 do everything you need done?
Do you need a temple for every religion?
I mean it’s not like gods are jealous or vengeful or anything.

HINT

Just how many T3 animal pens are too many?
How many vaults do you need before it gets absurd?

Since it’s left up to funcom we will never know.

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The really idiotic part is theres other games have sucess with how the rules are but funcom dont copy or try go in the same way
The way the rules are in Conan is the worst type of rules.

1st it is a builder game where people get banned for building and in most of 90% cases people didnt know why got banned

2nd theres no comunication or warning if you left a foundation alone in some place if you build near a useless ghost if you build near a hide chest like the chest hide understone in the silk hole cave you get banned and most of new players dont know about it.

3th this is Funcom fault and no the players fault.
Funcom keep adding things to make players build more and more big
Who dont remember the first benchs all are very small and what they did ? turned all benchs BIG enogh the wood bench the hide bench and even the cauldron turned in big things
and it didnt finished here they bring in the age of sorcerer golem bench , sacrificial stone , teleports and even the ritual circle
BUT wait they didnt think it was so much so they bring age of war where they introduce the purge bases with oil/fire cauldrons and taverns
BUT yet it isnt good enogh they add events givings us of course BIG things like our big teddy bear , the big khitan slave cart or the big lemurian brazier and now age of heroes they add the big corrupted plant.

I already talked many times here the only way to turn the rules good are making it simple turn places with learning ghosts ,dungeons entrance , unique resourses and recipes in non-builded places and give warning to people when something is wrong.

I play both ark and conan since the begin
i can tell you both are almost equal in gameplay but in ark rules always worked because it is simple ark always was much more players and it worked fine why it womt will work in conan?

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Please again Stop giving false informations AGAIN

I have read people saying found yetis in canada florest.
i have read people saying putin is a robot.
i have read people saying jesus christ will come in 2030 to saves from the weather problem.
I have read people saying madonna is a vampire.
I have read people saying funcom will fix all bugs before the 3th worldwar.

Like you see just because people are saying this doesnt turn it in a truth…

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Inside his head

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If it’s not a rule how can you get banned for it?

Why would they lie about the reason given for the ban?

Try to use that brain for something other then ignorant, absurd responses.

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I’ve never seen a screenshot of the in game suspension/ban or an email/Zendesk conversation showing the reason being excessive land claim though. It’s usually assumptions.

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While I wouldn’t be against a land claim radius, it would stop the more egregious builds, but I can see problems with it in actual implementation.

As I recall crafter thralls affect stations within 50 foundations so let’s say a land claim was 50 x 50. Should it also be 50 blocks high? Can the game engine even be made to enforce a height limit at all? At least without excessive coding that takes a lot of time and may introduce more… unintended consequences.

Regardless, whatever amount a landclaim is allowed many people, even ones who may have built a much smaller base instead, are going to fill every square inch of it, side to side and top to bottom, because it’s “theirs” and it’s allowed.

Funcom would be hamstrung in policing the servers by such a system because people would literally be building within designated limits and to go in and delete bases under said system would be even more counter-productive to retaining players than the current system.

They could say, “ok, you have 50 x 50 but please build reasonably within that limit” but that is essentially what they’re asking now. For people to build reasonably.

The only way a claim radius could work for it’s intended purpose is to be very small and limited in height. So basically be careful what you wish for. You may get it.

All that said, I’m just watching the circus at this point.

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