To be fair, it’s not just about that. Maybe it is for you, but not for everyone.
For example, I want to be able to give stuff to others who don’t have it.
That still doesn’t mean that what all of us want here can be reduced to BS like “you just want free stuff”.
I was on your train long time ago ̶u̶n̶t̶i̶l̶ ̶i̶ ̶g̶o̶t̶ ̶a̶r̶r̶o̶w̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶…
Yes, sharing was good, saving your friend gear from dead bodies too…
But, in 99% of games people cant share store items and skins (or uncommon gear for ex)., we can live with that.
Unfriendly? yes, but not gamebreaking.
But protected (unpickable loot) in survival game… oh… that another lvl of evil.
I’m not disagreeing with you but the top grossing game ever seems to think it’s OK for you to use the stuff as long as the master account is online. If I’m in my pal’s Buzzard and he gets kicked, it’s gonna start beeping in a couple seconds. There are frankly quite a few solutions that work really well for others.
If I buddy up with a rando on a dungeon who’s got the armor and I can’t retrieve it and he loses it, that guy is gonna call me names, then he’ll become my enemy. Gamers are fickle when it comes to losing good stuff. Not nice.
There are some high-profile games where players can actually sell skins, and there’s a successful market for companies that buy and resell skins and gear.
What I’m saying is, that’s technically possible, so people do it. Whether it’s actually legal depends on a lot of variables.
Everybody needs to decide for himself whats worth to him and whats not. I see the bazar items overall as a cash grab although I have bought the sandstone set. But since then realized that I did not played Conan a lot.
For me the fact remains, that I can get good games for the price of 10 to 15 bucks. Games that I can play for hundred of hours. So I have yet to see the value of one online item beeing more expensive then a whole game. Bought Project Zomboid the other day and payed 8,99 Euros for it. I put in almost 100 hours so far during the last 2 weeks without touching even the surface of what the game offers content wise to its playerbase. And I have a lot more of this kind of games. I do not have to play titles that cost you an arm or leg to be able to get some fun out off. But thats just me.
I get the people that do not play other games, so it seems to be worth to them to put a lot of money into the one they play. Yet, I feel the bazar is made for exactly this kind of people. And thats why I personally feel its an exploitation. They know exactly what the game means to a lot of people and therefore they know they can set up prices as high as they want because still enough people are willing to buy. And the more people buy the higher prices go up. There is no reason for them to lower prices.
If you want prices to be more resonable stop buying and self control yourself. And for gods sake, step outside your own bubble. Go on an adventure, play other games so you are finally able to realise that Conan is not the only game that can bring you joy and happiness. Once you realize that you live in a world with thousands and thousands of beautiful games you will be cured for your desire to put hundreds of dollars into one single game with a FOMO cash shop.
I play many other games besides Conan Exiles. But Conan Exiles is the only game that scratches one particular itch: the building and decorating aspect. The cash shop supports that particular aspect.
So, ultimately it boils down to
I was typing a response to your previous post originally, and than read this one. Your first post has quite a few things I agree with and I was writing down my agreement to some and objection to others. However, in your second post you seem to have become a rude know it all who thinks he can tell others how to live and spend their money. So reluctantly, I’ve actually responded to this second post.
“No, it doesn´t. That job is already taken care by mods. There are so many creative people out there that are willing to share their talents for free with you, its insane.”
Ummm we don’t all play on PC?
"And to be honest, people that buy into the bazar are mostly people that think that the cash shop miracously turns them into someone “special” because having it all is costly. Its more a show off (“look I am rich enough to be able to buy it all, you are not: mentality) then a real interest in most of the items.”
Did you pull this one out your rear end? Even the previous poster you responded to said they love building and decorating, that’s why they and people like myself, purchase those items. We love the game and what we’ve created and want to add to it with Wall Ivy or a Market Stall. Not sure how you’ve come to the conclusion we are trying to show off? I play this game only for myself, I’ve never posted a pic of my base and only will post something if it’s a picture that can directly help answer someone’s question.
“Oh, and then there is also the “we want to support the game with buying the shop empty” faction. 2 seasons later, no improvements have been done by Funcom. No new content, no new map, no bug fixing, no lag fixing, no server stability. But still defending this crap exploitative behaviour of Funcom.”
They just released a pretty good patch on PS5 that fixed a bunch of bugs I personally found quite annoying, so I’m happy with that. Could they do more? Of course.
“I am not telling people what to do or what not. Because you can not argue with unreasonable people. If people wanna burn their money instead of giving it a meaning, please do so. I just say, that maybe with all that money you throw out of the window right now, you could get some people a hot meal and a shelter.”
I mean, you are telling people what to do. I would say the only unreasonable comment from these past few comments has come from you! What exactly is the difference between spending $60 every three months on Conan and spending $60 every three months on other games (like you suggested)? Either way, that money isn’t going to people who need a hot meal and shelter. Lastly, am I not capable of giving to charity and buying myself something from online?
Honestly, I try to stay away from arguments on here because I just find they aren’t helpful. But you are not only telling others what to do, you are being rude about it!
No, it’s not. Ain’t no mods on the consoles. Or on official servers, for that matter.
Project much? Seriously, posting judgmental crap like that makes you just as reductionist as those who tell you that “you just want everything to be handed to you for free”.
Yes, there really are those who think that buying from the cash shop makes them special and exceptional, just like there really are those who want everything to be given to them for free. Both groups are very small. Reducing everyone to either of those groups only makes the discussion worse.
Those people believe that the improvements take more time to manifest. As someone who has worked in software development for a long time, I know that can be true. I don’t believe we’ll actually see improvement from Funcom, but I can understand why others believe we will.
Take a good, hard look at the post you wrote, and see if you can find anything ironic in those two sentences.
Oh, come off it. Yeah, I’m sure that those of us who are complaining about the prices are doing so because buying these digital items would eat into our monthly charity donations and community service work. 
Are you actually buying people hot meal and shelters, and you cannot afford the Bazaar purchases because of that? If you aren’t, then get off your high horse and call a spade a spade. It’s perfectly fine to say that the prices are too high and the monetization practices are questionable, without resorting to virtue signalling and posturing.
This pretty much shuts down a bulk of his argument. I play on console. I also play on official. I’m not the only one. Many of us want to have cool stuff, but the only way we can get it is via the bazaar, battle pass, dlc, or other Funcom approved methods. We don’t all have the luxury to just download a mod, nor should we feel the need to. I’m perfectly content with official servers. I don’t much care for private, nor single player modes.
Sorry not buying it. You have spent significant time on these forums so I don’t buy it that you think the game isn’t worth investment.
Yes, which is precisely why sanctimonious and judgmental attitude has no place in this discussion. It’s not about being able to afford the prices or what to do with the money, so stop calling people names over it.
Trying not to feed the trolls.
Pushing hard this weekend to get another Purge, had one last weekend, so to get another this weekend would be crazy!
Hope everyone has an awesome weekend!
EDIT: Got a Frost Giant Purge 
game has been giving me “Server Connection Error” since the update last Tuesday, still, got one wave, and four named thralls before it kicked me and ended the Purge. Three of them are new, so It’s still a win!
Congratulations! Though that’s not sounding good. I’ve been having Conan withdrawals for the past 2 weeks and eager to get back in. Hate to think I’ll be coming back to an unstable server.
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I LOVE LOVE LOVE that you can’t share items you don’t own. Sorry, I bought it, you shouldn’t be able to use it. From a busness point it’s a horrible idea to allow players that haven’t purchased an item to use an item.
[/quote] I thought this was already built in. If I make a film/music/images and sell it and then everyone goes off making copies for all their friends and I get no royalties…? lol
Yeah, exactly. And am pleased that if I happen to have specialised in a DLC that others do not have, that if they raid me successfully, they cannot get said stuff (I do think though that. should they kill me/thrall wearing a DLC armour, that they should be able to keep that )- although that opens another exploit-hole of me suiciding to grant freebies to all and sundry.
The DLCs and Bazaar and BattlePass stuff are effectively ‘skins’ of existing stuff in the vanilla game. Some items may combo bonuses slightly differently, but the core game contains the core mechanics.
If allowing non-owners grab DLC content via others, then on private, an admin just creates kits to share everything with anyone. No thanks. This does mean that Admins must factor this in with kits and the like as what could be a treasure for some could be an empty box for others.
Ability to use (equip) paid skins and ability to pick it up (as trophy or for resources) - thats the difference.
People should be able to loot via pvp every single item, that’s how looting in survival games works.
No loot should be protected by paywall.
Just block it from usage - seems fair
Those items are not skins when they exist as a gear pieces with stats attached to them.
First Culture packs items were offering additional build options back during culture-specialized crafters days. In current system BP and Bazaar armors are no different.
Funcom is one step away from introducing BP/Bazaar versions of Silent Legion or Dragonhide armors. IF they ever go for that route a good chunk of pvp will simply stop crafting vanilla pieces. Simply to deny another player a kit. Didn’t own the game during certain BP? Well too bad. Oh you want said piece from the Bazaar? Better go play other games you loser it’s not your rotation time.
There’s a way to fix such a porblem. Turn every cultural DLC/Bazaar/BP armor into actual transmog aka Illusion and move craft of those illusions into the thaumaturgy bench. But that requires a rework of the entire system such a big rework is hard to squeeze into dev cycle of current skeleton team.
Except that it breaches any reason to sell the added content because one person who pays for it could just equip n-number of clan mates or fake-death supply anyone just to get around paying for content.
Nope, fully support the FC position on this. If you want DLC then buy it - and comparing cost to the current Bazaar pricing, a win.
I’ve criticized Conan Exiles’ monetization more times than I bother to remember. I’m hardly going in with rose-tinted glasses. I also have no pretense of doing it to support my loved one(s) - I buy stuff I enjoy having. Sometimes that includes decorative items from the Black Lotus Bazaar.
I also play only on Single-Player so there’s no-one to whom I could show off my wealth and fortune and how special I am. I can feel as special as I want all by my lonesome.
Just as overly positive emotions can blind oneself from critical thinking, so can overly negative emotions. Are you sure you are thinking objectively here?
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