Fence foundations no longer snap to the faces of regular Foundations. Instead they only snap atop foundations like walls, which is something they cannot do in the current official build of the game.
In the event that this is an intended change as part of the effort described in the Patch Notes to prevent Fences from clipping inside Foundations, I would point out that this change makes some very important non-exploitive building techniques impossible, most critically the use of Fences to raise and lower Foundations a notch at a time without taking them out of grid alignment with the surrounding pieces. It also greatly complicates the ability to use a Fence attached to a Foundation to make a wall sit flush with the edge of the foundation instead of overhanging the foundation, and just makes it overly difficult to get fence foundations in proper alignment with other building pieces in general.
Can confirm. You canât clad foundations anymore. And you canât over lap the latticed fence with the support beams in the stable set. One of my favorite open build styles.
I expect people to go ballistic as soon as they find this out. Checking to see what else they
I cant believe it!
No more obtuse angles for fences?! If Iâm not mistaken that means we can only build fences with 90° if we donât want them to have a big fat foundation base!?!
No more big open windows?!
Iâm so ready to go ballstic right now
I just tested in Beta Client and you can still do it if you place the fence foundation first. Then place the foundation next to it. You just have to layout the perimeter first or stage a ceiling tile off an existing foundation and work backwards a bit.
Yeah, thatâs pretty sucky, imo. As someone else mentioned, I primarily snap fence foundations to foundations to lower them by a step at a time for precise measurements.
Dont not know why this was a priority âfixâ. It literally wasnât something being cried for on pvp. And when there is a major flaw with pyramid pillars to exploit. They take up a foundation worth of space, but 1/2 the cost, and a better stability due to horizontal connections. You cant place bombs around them if they have walls wrapped around. The bazaar Stormglass pillars have the same issue. But lets remove something really not an issue instead. It ssems the only time they update pvp, it is to bork with us lol.
They never have answered why DbD cant be on officials. If we will ever be able to retrieve our toons from Siptah back to Exiles on officials. But they will add a dive animation, a bat flying animation, and many other minimal mechanics that add almost nothing to the overall flow of the game.
Good to know you have a workaround ⊠until good ole Dennis takes it out. We all know how he hates âexploitsâ, well except 3rd party ones. Those he just ignores. You know the ole Schrödingerâs cat theory. If he doesnt acknowledge it then it doesnât exist.
Well I donât know if it was changed slightly because of anything other than adjusting the sockets for some other reason. It could be that the way it worked before was a leftover of fence stacking and there was a bug that was fixed that meant stepping foundations just needed a different method. I donât think anyone cares about the stepping as long as you canât increase the wall density
Speak for yourself, I care VERY MUCH about the stepping of foundations and pretty much every single image Iâve ever posted in the âshare your shelterâ thread is a testament to that.
EDIT: and just for clarity - thereâs two methods for stepped foundations and the one I consider the most important (as it only makes a 1/8th difference rather than 1/4) needs fence foundation cladding to work.
Guess I wonât be making any one wall high rooms anymore.
Did you see my immediate prior post? You can still do it. We were talking about it as exploit, which I dont think it is one. Thats why I said I dont think anyone cares; I dont think people care that others do it, as in it doesnt bother anyone.
If you mean you can step them upward in 1/4th increments, you could always do that without fence foundations. Any wall-like piece or regular fence piece placed atop the edge of a foundation will let you snap another foundation to the side 1/4 higher.
What fence foundations previously allowed you to do was snap a second foundation 1/8th lower. In addition to the fine tuning advantages, a 1/8th difference is also the height that allows you to use foundations as stairs, whereas a 1/4th gap requires jumping. A 1/8th downward step also lets you fit ramps flush with foundations instead of having that ugly lip sticking out on top. Thereâs a bunch of little features like that in jeopardy if this stays as it is.
And being able to lower the piece was a huge time saver. Now if this isnât changed what weâre going to have to do is use the 1/4 technique 3 times to reach 3/4ths higher, then build 1 sideways, 2 downwards, and 1 sideways again to get back to the original spot 1/4th lower. Itâs a bigger hassle than corner pillars.
To top it all off, itâs still possible to run fence foundations through the middle of wedge foundations. Unless wedge thickness doesnât matter in the explosives meta, this change hasnât fixed anything.
