Funcom Buisness Discussion

No point in arguing. Trust in Funcom is gone.

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If you’re not willing to share, why even bring it up? This is worse than hearsay.

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It is worse than hearsay because you’re not saying anything. Just a vague allusion you came into some information that makes you sure that SWL is done.

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Imagine Microsoft selling Windows Vista at a discount today, while it has stopped support ages ago. Unethical? Hey, you can’t blame the company’s ethics because you have made assumptions on incomplete information.
Microsoft isn’t doing anything wrong. New users can still install Windows Vista on a pc and it’ll work. Lack of support doesn’t change that.
This would’ve been some really smart business from Microsoft. The boost in those Windows Vista sales will really drive the profit of Microsoft up sky high.

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My uncle works at Nintendo and told me they’re porting SWL to Switch soon.

I have the text messages to prove it but I can’t show them to you. :upside_down_face:

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https://forums.funcom.com/t/social-guidelines-read-me/62

The Social Guidelines state that:

An accusation against another person’s or organization’s integrity, business practices, etc. is only allowed if the accuser has sufficient evidence. This is to prevent doomsaying, panic, and misinformation.

You made an accusation against Funcom (you claim to have information that proves “we’re [meaning SWL by implication] done for”) without sufficient evidence. I challenge you to provide such evidence.

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Then don’t hide behind forum rules.

I don’t expect you to trust me. Just like I wouldn’t trust someone claiming to have information that is “out there” but failing to state where, who, or what.

Don’t post stuff like that if you’re too chicken to back it up with evidence.

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Well Gz on actually making Halloween scary this year


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If Microsoft decided to sell an unsupported product, labelled as unsupported, then yeah, there wouldn’t be a problem with that.
However, given that a big part of their brand identity involves the ongoing support of their products, it’d be unlikely.

Funcom isn’t selling an unsupported product. Unsupported and no announced further development are not the same thing. TSW is unsupported, and you can no longer buy new copies from official sources. So I’m really not sure what point you think you’re making, but you’re not doing it well or clearly.

You’ve just contradicted yourself - how WILL you post what you know when we’re not going to see it from you? All you’re doing is trying to stir rumour without providing any kind of detail. So far you’ve said that someone told you something about something and this proves that it’s all over. Just stop trying to cause drama.

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“Oh I won’t post this thing I have proof of because it’ll get removed by the biased moderators” - why do you care if the moderators remove it? Why are you scared to get a virtual slap on the virtual wrist from a company if you think that company is bad and behaving unethically?

The least you could have done is post a shoddy photoshop of Nirvelle saying they abandoned the game because they hate the players and then when it gets removed, point at it as proof that your secret knowledge is real :v:

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So you’re deliberately posting about something off topic which the person who told you has specifically asked you not to post about, but you did anyway.

Think we may have found a good example of poor ethics!

Isn’t the point of sensationalism meant to be that it’s sensational? Here I’m losing interest very fast in a damp squib that was pretty spurious to begin with.

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I think you’ll find the rest of us were discussing “Buisness” :v:

Business is the correct spelling.

The damp squib to which I was referring is the spurious claim that evidence exists purporting to prove that Funcom have ceased work on SWL. We all have our doubts, but if you have proof, produce the body. Either provide the receipts or recant.

If I learned anything from Billy Madison it’s that the concept of “Business Ethics” is hard to put into words. I do know it has very little to do with actual morality, so intentionally misleading customers for profit is a time-honored business tradition. Even outright lying is generally considered okay, as long as you can gaslight long enough for the next product to distract the consumers.

As bad as Funcom have been with SWL, it doesn’t come anywhere near the behavior of EA, Bethesda, or Blizzard. If shortsighted business decisions really were unethical, they’d have been shut down several times over. And let’s not forget Hanlon’s razor. We can take comfort that Funcom weren’t unethical or immoral in how they’ve conducted themselves. They’re really just incompetent.

I don’t think we need some whistle-blower with third hand knowledge to let us all know that SWL isn’t getting anymore significant updates. If Funcom weren’t willing to put resources into developing the game back when it still had a significant playerbase, they certainly aren’t going to now.

I also don’t think it’s all that bad to still have monetization in SWL. If people are stupid enough to give them money at this point, then those people don’t have a right to complain. And the rest of us can’t really complain either, since it’s not our money they’re giving away. Sure, it might encourage further shady business practices, but such is the state of gaming these days. There’s not really anything we can do about it.

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If MS would be selling retail Windows 7 pro today I would buy it. But no - if I want to upgrade computer memory I would need to suffer with Win10.

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Windows 10 isn’t a bad OS. It’s a massive improvement over 8 at least.

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As bad as Funcom have been with SWL, it doesn’t come anywhere near the behavior of EA, Bethesda, or Blizzard.

While I agree with most of your post, I disagree that severity implies Funcom’s actions are less ethical. It’s like saying stealing $100 isn’t the same as stealing $100,000; or that manslaughter isn’t as bad as murder. In the examples I noted, most justice systems will decide the actions are criminal, and mete out punishment based on severity (and usually intent).

If I learned anything from Billy Madison it’s that the concept of “Business Ethics” is hard to put into words.

Business ethics is in all likelihood a sub-section of corporate law, and I doubt anyone here, including myself, has intimate knowledge of it. I also doubt this is the first time in the history of man that ethical business behaviour has been brought up. I’m certain if anyone was interested in the actual laws that define ethical vs. criminal business behaviours, you could look it up and have a starting point for an informed discussion.

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I don’t think a person who learned business ethics from Adam Sandler is legally allowed to call other people stupid :v:

What’s truly stupid is everyone who thinks that someone buying aurum for sprint speeds (or whatever) because they’re having fun in the game and want to run faster is somehow being ripped off because they’re only getting aurum for sprint speeds (or whatever) and not a cast iron promise that the game will continue to receive patches and support for the next fifty years.

What exactly have Funcom stolen? Is it your heart? It’s your heart, isn’t it? :v:

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