Actually it just reinforces you are a bit off.
As for the vid the person there made some good points. I came away thinking that one should never forget history. Left me thinking about the culture at Funcom again.
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video is spot on.
And itâs a shame
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I 100% agree with everything you said. And it really bums me out because I was soooo looking forward to Dune. But I will not buy it no matter how good it looks. Itâs time these software companies give us the product that WE PAID FOR and stop treating us like We OWE THEMâŠ
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It all come down to opinion and your opinion will differ compare to someone else. But Iâm not saying your wrong he was kinda crying a bit at the end. But the core of its video still stand.
Thatâs not true some of the stuff you say we agree 100% with it. Most of the time itâs what follows it that created conflict. The first time I read your comments I was like yeah this guy got a point. And I started sharing my thoughts on some treads and you came at me. Saying I didnt know anything and that my life was irrevelant. Thatâs just one example of why some people remember you for what you are. And I sure remember you, but I donât hate you 
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Ok this is silly there no new debate on this can we get this locked now ⊠Iâm not against debate but jesus and rice yall need to calm down. We live in a consumer society if you dont like the game vote with your wallet. Yall got to destress let them make their game in how they see it. You can just mod pc. Or play the game offer suggestion or go play different game. Conan exile is just one of many games to play.
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Skip the thread if it doesnât interest you?
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To be fair, Games as a Service does not work. EAâs Anthem crashed and burned, and has never recovered. And now Square Enixâs Avengers, Which as not made itâs money back yet, And that is also supposed to be a live service.
Two major Titles that failed.
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Interesting video. The heavy-handed nerf hammer is annoying, but thatâs not what drove me away. Itâs the âfixing-what-ainât-brokeâ revamps that killed my enjoyment. I absolutely loved this game from launch up until Siptah, and the only thing I really wanted was more of it. More content, more dungeons, more new places to explore. Instead, I feel like we just got more grind, more complexity, more useless tinkering. Itâs no longer the same game, and I donât like how itâs changed.
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WoW, LoL, Fortnite, GTA Online and countless others disagree.
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100% ⊠i will never ever give Funcom another cent. Ever.
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Didnât get Siptah, Not going to get dune, anyone who talks to me about dune is going to get told about Age of Conan and Conan exiles.
I honestly think word of mouth could have the inverse effect on dune if you just utilise your powers of consumer socialization.
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Okay, Conan Exiles is far from perfect. Itâs the result of adding more duct tape to broken foundations, in a valiant effort to make it as functional as possible. From this starting point, it canât really ever be âfixedâ the way people want it to be.
But it has also been a learning experience for Funcom. They know what they did wrong with Conan Exiles, so they can avoid making the same mistakes with Dune. So itâs kinda wrong to prematurely judge Dune based on their earlier products.
If youâre done with Funcom, thatâs another matter. But please separate your criticism towards the product from your criticism towards the developer/publisher. And of course, if it turns out that Funcom didnât learn their lesson and Dune ends up with the same problems as Conan Exiles, then itâs time to criticize the product, too.
it is called a track record, it is not wrong to judge based on prior products it is how you make informed decisions on business with a company, if they have a history of selling faulty products, making wild changes, I should be able to inform people of that.
I donât see how one would separate criticism of the product with the developer as if there was no issue with the product I would have no issue with the developer, it is like saying hey blame the food that gave you food poisoning, not the chef.
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If the chef has made 10 portions of food, and one of those portions causes food poisoning, then yes, itâs a valid reason to criticize the chef - he has done his job poorly. However, that doesnât make those nine other portions of food inedible; the nine other people may have enjoyed their food perfectly well, but they could (and should) still be wary of the chef in the future.
Similarly, based on our prior experiences, itâs okay to be wary of Funcom; however, it doesnât mean that Dune will be a bad game. We can say that only after weâve seen the product.
If Dune turns out to be a great game, itâs still okay to criticize Conan Exiles for its flaws; itâs still okay to criticize Funcom for their flaws; but itâs not okay to cal Dune a bad game just because you donât like Conan Exiles or Funcom.
I hope this clarifies what I meant earlier.
How do you even remotely come to that conclusion. In what way possible can you honestly say based on the evidence provided they have taken conan as a learning experience.
Lets take for example Siptah⊠now Conan ExilesâŠthe lesson they failed to learn was balance the game, deal with mesh combining issues (ie why people can build inside the mesh is due to the prefab objects overlapping and exploiting that overlap). People can also exploit the animations to trigger the âteleportâ effect when they do cheat.
So ⊠Conan Exiles⊠fine, lesson learned build on from that⊠fast foward to SiptahâŠthe exact same set of behaviours on repeat. So Siptah was their âWe have figured it out nowâ moment and they have utterly failed to deliver.
Iâm just curious as to what source of truth youâre pulling this from as weâre mostly all sitting here thinking the OP has some strong open points that go unchallenged.
Hell no. The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. This objection to Funcom as a publisher is less now about Conan and more towards consumer / buyer remorse issues. As if to say, âWe thought we had an agreement, we thought we were advocating for a game thats worth our time and investmentâ.
Like the OP said, they are given a golden oppurtunity to be sucessful with Conan franchise time and time again and they actively choose to ignore proactive choices.
If they do this with past franchises / titles then Dune will by historical record alone end the same. So Fool me once? âŠFool me twice or in some cases several times.
Asking for this to be some how seperated out as if its just an âoopsâ momentâŠyouâre not paying attention at all.
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Watch the video. It is talking about that very issue. Funcomâs past projects have been handled the same way as Conan has. I played those games, I saw the nonsenseâŠ
Which is why may of us will not buy any future projects from Funcom. Dune will be handled the same way, mark my words.
And let me re-iterate this: It could have been the greatest game ever. They have dropped the ball.
When you ignore your customers nothing good will happen for your product
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The issue with your anology is the vast majority of funcom products (all that I have played, Anarchy online, AOC, CE) have given me food poisoning, so its more like the chef has made me violently ill multiple times, but promises I will love the dish he has next, just need to pay for it and its mine.
In the unlikely event Dune is a great game from launch defying all previous track records, given we have games as a service it is not even a given it would remain a great game given the companies history of fiddling with games, I distinctly remember age of conan being super fun despite heavily unpolished then 3 months in Radical changes, Conan exiles also has had radical changes to the nature of healing, crafting, combat and far from always for the better.
So it is even worse really, a chef that gives you food poisoning 10/10 times so far and is liable to rush to your table at any moment to oversalt any edible part your dinner and wait for you to gleefully consume it lol.
If funcom could deliver on their promises I would be 100% behind them.
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Theyâve said so themselves. Now itâs up to them to put their money where the mouth is.
Well not to be that guy but they have so much hate debt that integrity is now openly questioned. It doesnât help matters when they take a âI know bestâ position on community as wellâŠas if âyouâll get told when i feel like telling youâ
Dev Streams QAâs arenât going to pay that hate debt down either. As its ripe with âWe are working onâŠâ but no actual timelines or concrete roadmaps to bank on beyond broad strokes.
Communication and backing it up with deliverables is the only way they can potentially redeem their posture here.
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