I'm on official, is this idea is against the ToS?

I don’t know if it’s the right place to ask this to an admin so forgive me if this is the wrong place.

After being banned 2 weeks from an official server for a supposed land claiming abuse, i decided to rebuild partially what was erased on the same server, the goal being to build a RP hotel by “reparing” the shattered bridge.
Few players reported me that several bases were wiped and considering that the admin have a tendency to wipe automaticaly, i made this post to no if it’s in the limits.

For what is below, I roughly made the building envelope.The reason the building is this long is because I build all the altars in a straight line, while keeping them as close as possible in an attempt to reduce the lenght, all of them being covered.

So i’d like to ask to an admin if he take a look here: Is this landclaim abuse as from one side to the other, it’s the space occupied by the altars?
Honestly if it’s against the ToS, i’d like the admin to explain me how am i supposed to dispatch all the altars as they are taking the same space.

Note that it’s very possible I’ll have to lay vertically because some things like the map room are too wide to be build inside.

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You won’t get an official reply. Your guide to acceptability is here:

It is a “guide” as to what would be unacceptable, but is not intended to be comprehensive.

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I’m gonna unofficially say yes, absolutely, 100%, you should start typing up your appeal ticket already

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Aren’t there ghost one the bridge? If you blocked them, you blocked content. Otherwise I’ve seen larger structures survive reporting

I already read it but it’s full of grey areas, i saw few bases seemingly respecting the ToS and still being wiped out.

Nop, this time i took care to not prevent the ghost to show (they are passing through the building) and i have not seen anything on the middle bridge that could be a point of interest either.

I do not plan to extend it further horizontally: On one side because of the ghosts and on the other side because another player asked me to let him rebuild his base nearby.
So what’s left is to build vertically and i have yet to solve the map room space.
As for the wheel and other taming facilities, it will be on the ground under the bridge. They are too massive to be build on the bridge sadly.

Well, now let’s farm the massive amount of ressources that will be required to convert everything into Frontier / Nemedian.

I feel that with those pillars under the bridge you will be reported fairly soon again.

It is, intentionally. If you are afraid you will violate the ToS by building there, the answer is quite simple; don’t. Build someplace you are sure you won’t. Ambiguity serves to steer people away from the edge of acceptable or risk the consequences. Only they know how much they care about the ghosts path going thru your base, but if it were me, I wouldn’t build at a ghost spawn at all. Not even on my private server.

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You will not get an official review and answer.

They will shut down this post and direct you to Zendesk for your inquiry.

Where you will not get an answer there either.

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Generally when you set out to build a RP… anything… on an official server that almost always implies it will be against the rules simply because of the nature of said buildings.

Official server rules in a nutshell: “Don’t use up more space than you NEED”.

RP buildings in a nutshell: “Use up more space than you need for pretend reasons” (for example for your blacksmith to have his own house… when you can put him in a box :joy: - decorative landclaim right there)

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(Ofc there are overlaps and exceptions, this is a very generalized description)

Does not mean you have to have them all though :slight_smile:
While you… can… I’m just saying the exclusion radius on the altars is not an excuse.


Anyway, your pictures are very tiny, but if those are pillars indeed, then that’s a definite invitation for an admin wipe imo. Plus I’m not sure how they would feel about the whole concept of repairing something they called Shattered and is a PoI.

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@Yorae, your images are very small so it is hard to see exactly how it is, if you want to you could mention the server number and I’ll be willing to go there and check it out :slight_smile:

It’s server number 1005 PvE, but take note that’s just a husk as i have yet to build many things like the map room, the stables or a vegetal maze.

I still think that my idea is space efficient as i don’t need to extend more than what the altars are already taking. (and I don’t see any rule against building them all)
Recently, I came across a gigantic Turanian castle around the center of the map or a castle build around and on a little mountain near superemu.
So if my idea is something that an admin would wipe because it’s too big, what about those castles?

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I have examined your build and there may be some problems that can make what you are trying to do a risky business.
As others have said there are walking ghosts that show some lore and while people can follow them they go into your foundations up on the bridge so they can’t really see what the ghost are showing, that can be a reason for ban if you are reported.
While your build isn’t wide it does expand quite a long way, maybe even longer than what admins would consider necessary, this I am not sure of, but I’ve seen even small builds getting banned for building in or on lore buildings, so this is something to consider too :wink:


since you already have gotten 1 ban for building too big, you may consider what is actually necessary for a base, and also where you build.
People can get away with bases that are too big, it often comes down to how people feel about them, and this is not meant in a bad way, but let’s face it, your building and especially the long pillars down doesn’t really look good or fitting for the place… Sorry for being honest :slight_smile:

From the little I have seen so far, this server is among the worst I’ve ever experienced, the first thing that I saw when reaching the noob river was gigantic castles all the way with little room for new players, Sepermeru is also filled with gigantic bases, many of them way bigger than needed, it is not like it is filled with ugly buildings, but official servers aren’t meant for showcasing what you can do, then people might consider building big and huge in either a private server or singleplayer.
I agree with you that there are loads of bases that break the TOS on this server, but it all comes down to if they get reported, I am pretty sure admins don’t check anything else than what gets reported, it is not like they check said servers for other things breaking the rules.

This server is a good example of what happens when a server is covered in huge bases, I mean most of the time all predators and npc’s are unresponsive and stuck in place, there is quite severe rubberbanding and in my first 30 minutes I got the Lost connection error 4 times, but all this is a different story :slight_smile:

My best advice is to build a more discrete base in a place that doesn’t irritate others, that bridge is quite visible and plays a huge part in the lore of the Exiled Lands :slight_smile:

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Of course it’s ugly and not fitting, i have to go back from scratch so i’m not able to build T3 pieces on a regular basis, not mentioning that i am currently trying to have stellar metal, black ice and a T4 smith.

Previously it was a mix with Nemedian / Frontier / Arena to make it fit with the Shattered bridge.
I still have a minimum of aesthetic sense even if it’s hard to believe.

It will take a while before being able to craft the quantity needed, especialy since i’m alone now.

Believe it or not, i already cut by half what i have build previously. What you have seen is the minimal space required to build all the altars in straight line, no more no less.
I don’t want to imagine the height needed if I have to pile them all up vertically.
And yes, i want to have all the religious advantages.

Maybe building a Babel tower could do but i don’t know how and where to build something like this.

I have yet to build all the best crafting stations, a full sorcery room, the new golem one, the map room, the teleport room, my personnal room, the personnal room of my two friends (just in case they decide to come back), and the space for the mounts / thrall.
I don’t know if you checked the basis of the bridge but i have quiet the number because i managed to save a good part of those tamed by my friends.

So thruthfully, i don’t know when i will finish the necessary and the place it will take before even attacking the RP part like making a vegetal maze.

Still thank you for taking your time - and i went down a floor so the players can see the ghosts fully.

You wouldn’t have wanted to be there 3 weeks ago, it was far worse. Someone from my server told me that apparently, there was a technical problem that erased many bases for no reason.

I was told a little story few days ago: There was two russian clans that were doing mass report for breaking the ToS and…they ended up to see their own bases erased instead. Funny no?

Am echoing @Jimbo - get your screenshots in of your base just in case…
That site often gets builds thrown at it, but it also blocks content from other players. If you are lucky, no-one on the server will report you, otherwise it’s all in Crom’s hands.
Just go through that link from @darthphysicist and make your own mind up.

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You can make it much bigger. but to an inactive area. edge of the map, places that are far away and unvisitable.

So where you do it is very important. What you do next is important. You can even build a 1000-storey car park in a place where no one will go :slight_smile:

:headstone: :pick:

This topic should have been closed :slight_smile: It’s funny that it came up 2 years later. Also why wasn’t it closed?

Even the forum is broken :smiley: We are angry because the game is broken :slight_smile:

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Creative Corner topics don’t get closed as they’re meant to be for fun. Seems to me this one was just categorized wrong. More than likely should have been under Players Helping Players instead since it was a question about legality of a build.

i would not risk it looks like very long and bridges building are mentioned on ToS. If it was one section and your base was over it it may would be ok, but 2 sections seems more than someone needs.

You got a suspension and coming back, you decide to build what got you the ban for, again?
Just out of curiosity 1 1/2 years later, did you get another suspension for it?

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