Hi, no, I meant followers, i.e. Thralls that are following you the player.
Also you can’t kill someone else’s Thrall that is scouting anymore, I tested it on an official PVE-C server the other night.
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PvP was better on PvE-C when thralls didn’t intervene…
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no its a new thing, werry new thing !
A yes then it was real pvp now ppl just send folowers on everyone, spec low levels and unpreperd!
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There’s confusion here, let me lay out all the possibilities as I remember them:
1: You were always able to damage, (and still are), your own following thralls during PVP hours on PVE-C.
2: Your following thralls have never been able to damage you, (and still can’t), during PVP hours on a PVE-C server.
3: Your own following thralls were always able to damage, (and still are), other players during PVP hours on PVE-C, (this one is more subtle, but means if your thrall is attacking a PVE mob and a non-clan player gets in melee range, then that player can get hit/damaged/killed as well). I’ve seen this one happen hundreds of times over the years, especially in dungeons during PVP hours on PVE-C servers.
4: You can hit/damage/kill your clan members during PVP hours on a PVE-C server, but damage is multiplied by a scale value that is in the server settings, (usually at 0.2 x damage, i.e. one fifth).
5: You can now order your following thralls to attack and damage other players during PVP hours on a PVE-C server, (this one is relatively new, but I am not sure how new, within the last year I would guess).
6: Following mounts used to fight back when attacked if riderless, both during non PVP hours when attacked by PVE mobs and during PVP hours when attacked by other players on a PVE-C server, (it was very weak damage output and usually allowed the mount to get killed very quickly, now they always run away).
7: Scouting mounts and thralls were immune to player damage for a long time during PVP hours on a PVE-C server, then briefly for a while were able to be attacked and killed; but now seem to be immune to damage again, (though I have seen some very odd behaviour whereby a scouting thrall of a player who just died during PVP hours, would attack you, but no damage would be inflicted to you). I have video footage of this last odd behaviour.
8: For a long time you were never able to damage a player’s following thrall or mount during PVP hours on a PVE-C server, but now you can, (the mount can be damaged both whilst it is being ridden and riderless if it’s player master is still alive).
I have probably missed some variations, but that’s all i can think of right now; as you can see it’s not a simple and clear set of possibilities and some of them have individually changed and toggled over time.
P.S. I thought of more…
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HEHE no you was not able to hurt youre folower sins resenly, thats a total new thing newr then “5: You can now order your following thralls to attack and damage other players during PVP hours on a PVE-C server, (this one is relatively new, but I am not sure how new, within the last year I would guess).”!! Maybe on a pvp server but not in any off the pve servers!
And its a werry bad change in all poseble wayes!
If you’re saying 1: is wrong, then I am going to respectfully have to disagree, I have footage from late 2018 and every year in between of me hurting my thrall whilst farming bosses in UC during PVP hours on PVE-C official servers. This one is not a new change, this behaviour has always remained constant.
And about 5: I am in two minds, it allows afk players and players not so good at PVP to at least fight back when attacked during PVP hours, but also allows high level players to troll low level players with their thralls, (I don’t see this one happen very often, but I have seen it happen).
P.S. Lets face it, if a high level player is trolling low level players by ordering his thrall to kill them during PVP hours, then he’s probably going to personally kill them anyway, (if you took the ability to command thralls to attack other players away); just my 2 cents.
No this is recent.
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Do you run mods?
Naaaah, you need to read this one carefully, I’m not talking about commanding your thrall to attack another player, (that one is recent), but the ability for another player to be accidentally killed by your thrall during PVP hours on a PVE-C server.
Accidental death by another player’s thrall has always been there, I have hundreds of experiences and videos to prove it.
P.S. no mods, this is on official PVE-C.
No grahicly yes with the blood splatter but not physical dmg, = we had a 1 month of that too earlier way back.
Ok we’re just going to have to disagree, I can categorically and unequivocally state that I have seen hundreds of players die during PVP hours on a PVE-C official server being accidentally killed by thralls. This was way before the commands to attack players were introduced.
I run dungeons during PVP hours all the time and have done it for years, the amount of times I have seen another player being killed by my thrall with a Crom 2h is hilarious, (this is well before the commands to attack other players were introduced).
I think you either don’t understand what I am saying, or you just never experienced it, but it was and still is a very real thing.
What mods do u run. We are talking offical servers here please refrain commenting wihen u have mods.
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lol, I have said multiple times official servers and I replied to your earlier question.
No mods, official PVE-C server only.
Look I’m not here to argue, I have proof of what I have stated, you disagree, that’s fine, lets just leave it at that.
P.S. If you don’t fully understand the scenarios I have described, then that is fine, ask for more detail, otherwise lets just drop it. And naaah I won’t refrain from commenting, but thanks for the suggestion.
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I like how patient you are.
I think a lot of people never noticed they were harming their followers because you could see neither their hp bar nor their buffs during combat.
But before the hp-bar update I could see the bleeding debuff in my followers stats when I intentionally hit them with daggers during PvP hours (and a tiny loss of hp on their hp bar)
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