Nerf vaults, do it fast!

Your mule or butt buddy doesn’t impressed me Jester. Cleary you and jester doesn’t understand a tier 3 storage. Vaults are tier 3 storage. I must be thinking the future update for demon-fire barrage. When sorcery comes out.

It also unlikely to spam vaults.

You are still going to want steel around for high grade weapons and armors. Also for harden steel. What likely happen Jester and Mode raid a base and was unprepared for it.

Yes, of course you would. But that’s irrelevant.

It’s absolutely impossible for someone to build that many explosives before someone else could build a vault, assuming nobody is cheating.

Tar isn’t free (You can get a little from NPCs, but not much), so the amount of materials required for 120 explosives is even higher than what’s listed above. It would take 123,000 coal to produce that much tar, or 24,600 bark plus 24,600 hides (or triple hides if you use regular ones).

Good luck even getting the tar ready before someone has multiple vaults up. :slight_smile:
It’s just crazy.

Heh. The fact that I can more easily level a black ice base than break into one vault is pretty telling. Your ramblings come from sheer ignorance. My statements come from being alpha and knowing full well that all I have to do presently is build a boatload of vaults and I’m totally safe.

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Alphas are fake. There is no Alpha human. Your knowledge of real life is limited to your imagination. As the creator of alphas admitted he made a mistake. As all humans and creatures follow a parental bond.

But why waste vaults? It’s pointless.

Who said anything about wasting vaults?

I was simply pointing out the absurdity of your claim. Nothing more.

The point of my claim is vaults aren’t going to be throw around. The clan will try to blend there vaults bend a protective wall.

You were saying you can prepare 120 explosives before someone can build a vault. That has nothing at all to do with whether they are going to be thrown around.

But if you look through the forums you will see many threads about vaults being placed everywhere, thrown all over the map because they are cheap to make and very difficult to destroy. Simply looking at the forums makes it patently obvious that a ‘lot’ of people think vaults are too cheap and too OP.

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Instead of nerfing allow demon-fire barrage to damage vaults. This kills 2 birds with 1 stone.

I get orbs being a little less effective against vaults given their easy access but bombs and high tier seige should of been given a multiplier against a building such as the vault.

As for limiting this only to demon fire barrage itd be quite dumb given the vault spam. I mean it makes no sense to find a vault then build some seige platform at an effective distance just to remove a vault. Sure allow this to happen as an alternative but let bombs be effective and practical against them first. They make the most sense to buff against vaults.

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You know low tier buildings would be destroy by 1 exposive if all exposives got increase damage. We don’t need another nerp asap topic.

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It’s funny how clear the sides are here. You have the raiders who want raiding to be easier.

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The none raiders who want to be left alone even though they joined a PvP server.

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Psss… I’m an offline player.

Meh, PvP’s borked in either case. Until someone magically figures out an optimal solution to offline raiding. Which I still think is highly improbable since any attempt at solving that issue is more likely to worsten it.

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If you don’t want to be raided, go on a PvE server. In the meantime, they need to balance the raiding.

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I think you’re not really understanding what “raiding” means buddy. Kicking down the door to an empty house isn’t a raid, it’s no more then invading without resistance.

If it was something that happened now and then, it wouldn’t be so bad. But sadly, people in general are spineless cowards and will more often then not rely on this method as a staple. Then they get inflated egos over it, lording over others as if they actually acomplished something meaningful. And that’s for any game that doesn’t have any offline protection, whereas the games that do have a form of offline protection will see it abused to make absolutely invulnerable fortifications. “Hey guys, we’re under attack! Let’s all just log off for a while until they decided to go away.” or “Run to the safe zone! Once we’re near it, we can keep them out of it and poke at them safely!” or a good number of other variations of abuse.

That’s why I don’t play on PvP servers. PvP is a joke and most players who think they are taking it seriously are just lying to themselves. If I want to PvP, I’ll play an arena based game.

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That why vaults have high hp. So you don’t kick them open. You want raiding as easy as Ark. Go back to your easy raiding in ark.

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There is offline protection : All PvP servers enable structural damage only within 5pm to 11pm, 7 days a week, which makes Offline raiding something non-existent when it comes to big clan fights.

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Isn’t that the point of a vault? To be resilient? To safe guard your things? I fail to see the issue

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