Not questioning your math, questioning your descriptors. The descriptors you use is based on your opinion of the pricing, not facts.

1+1=2 not an angry 2 or a sad 2 or a depressed 2 or a psychotic 2, just the number 2.
Pricing can be ludicrous but not predatory, pricing can be absurd but not hostile.
Sounds like you’ve bought in to some economic propaganda buzz words.

the value of an item is what the market will bear. And apparently the Bazaar will bear some pretty high prices.

Then you’re not trying hard enough. I can piratically, with out even looking guarantee there are people that max spend every month. And that is a bit more the $10. You do get there are sets in the store that cost more then that, and they have new sets weekly{?}

There is no consumer protection in the bazaar.

You clearly have not done any home work.
This is SOP for gaming, tencent doesn’t have the patent on this marketing plan.
The battle pass and bazaar/in game store, works well in most every game. What doesn’t work well with Conan is the season events.

I have pointed out repeatedly my issue with the bazaar isn’t the pricing but the buyer beware policy. That just proves to me you have no confidence in the quality of your product.
Yes the pricing is a bit much, and they may have some item or another I might want and would spend that on, but I’ll never know because I refuse to shop there.

The average player never makes it to the forum to express an opinion.

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If you maximize profits, you have by definition achieved the best possible financial result.

Uh-humm.

Did I say so? Maybe read it again - as a homework assignment. :wink:

All I want is for them to make the bazaar rotation faster, make old items available and revert the rolling thrust nerf, and give us the old inventory management back.

And seasonal events.

You didn’t say it wasn’t either.

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Uh-hum.

Wait wait wait, so you mean this ISN’T an actual image of one of the financial experts Tencent sent to Funcom?
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Not sure those numbers tell you much of the picture. Curious…do they account for cost of revenue?

Amazon made over 574 million in revenue last year. The cost of that revenue was about 480 million. They made about 93 million in profit. Nothing to shy at, but is interesting that it costs 480 million to make 93 million. It is a ratio (cost/revenue). About 80% of Amazon’s revenue was cost.

I would like to know if that ratio is remaining the same, increasing, or decreasing. Revenue can go up, but if that cost of revenue ratio is increasing there may be some diminishing returns happening… :thinking:

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And 20% is a good profit and exactly what most venture capitalists are expecting as fair as investment.

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Yep! Which is precisely why, as @ToBeDetermined pointed out, profit is a more useful metric than revenue.

The company I work for just saw its shares go down by almost 25%, just because they announced that one aspect of their business didn’t grow by as much as they expected in Q1. Let that sink in: they grew, they just didn’t grow quite as much as they expected.

So forgive me if I’m somewhat suspicious of people who throw big numbers around and expect me to be dazzled.

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True. However, there is strong evidence that suggests that in an effort to maximize profits, companies make decisions that in fact reduce their profits. In a recent study it was shown that companies that pay their employees reasonable salaries and pay attention to their well-being actually have increased profits compared to companies that pay minimum wages and oppress their employees, but companies intent on maximizing profits often gravitate toward the latter because it feels like it’d be the more profitable option.

In real life, econs don’t exist. There are only humans who think they’re econs.

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I just completed the survey.

The questions were made this way that it came to that I LIKE ALL THE CHANGES AND NEW THINGS :slightly_smiling_face:

Because I like them, but there is always a big BUT to every new thing and change which was not taken into account in the way survey was designed.

One thing for sure, I don’t want any more building sets, we have already too many, most of the new ones do not even fit the game.

FUNCOM YOU WANT OUR MONEY DON’T YOU! ?? !! ?? !!

Then give us expansions to existing building sets we keep asking you for years:

  • internal room dividing walls - with inside texture on both sides (mods offer them)
  • give us normal windows that can be opened and closed (again mods provide that, just existing in-game hatches but mounted inside the door frame.
  • gives us placeables that fit into each exisiting build style

And don’t ask silly questons, just look up the top 30 most popular mods on Steam and all the questions will be asnwered.

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I took the time for the first survey and now for the second one.
… at least they try… but actions have to follow.

How many times did we report the broken thrall and pet feeder boxes?
How many times did we say we want quality instead of quantity?

That most players would prefer bug fixes and better balancing instead of dumping more content into the game that barely works at times, should be clear by now.

That’s almost the only thing everyone agrees.

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Last page came with more personal questions , i replied to those with “irrelevant” .

Not many questions about bazaar.

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It is funny that people criticize Funcom for doing anything, and dont even notice it.

“Bazaar must rotate faster”, because apparently “everyone” that will buy things can get the money to do so in a whim.

“They use fomo tactics to maximize profit”, because apparently keeping things for a while in the bazaar so people who have to wait a time to put together money at the cost of getting the impulse rich shoppers money is somehow “FOMO”.

I do think it would be nice to have something like the GW2 shop, in which some stuff is always there, and some stuff is seasonal, but there is something else “around” about that:

“Cash shops are intrusive and wreck the game experience”, but somehow funcom still have this problem when they make theirs small and most “forgettable” if you dont want to interact with it.

And some people wonder why forum “community” never gets anything changed.

Any group of people can only operate change if they understand that each individual must concede something in order to have another thing put forth. If people can agree on anything, how can the “forum” be a form of decision making ?

It is noticeable that people like the bazaar and it is here to say. It is noticeable that some people buy slow, some people buy fast, so both need to get to a point in which they are happy with what they want as a group that want the bazaar to exist, in order for having a feedback that makes sense.

But as with anything else around here, it is hopeless. Nothing they ever do will get the flow of rage posts to stop. But if that is the case, why bother ?

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A lot of contradiction is true.

People complain about the price because they don’t like the price for the item. That does not necessarily mean that they don’t want to buy stuff. It seems like many people do want to buy stuff. I doubt many people would complain if they had no interest in buying.

The FOMO is the rotation timer. If someone really wants something they have to log in every day, or every other day because “I might miss that thing during rotation.” Then who knows when it will be back again.

They should just get rid of the rotation and have everything available. They could still have bundles. Even create your own bundle, like pick ‘n’ items from some list for a special price. A sale page with specific items on sale…etc. They should get rid of the fiat currency too. Just a simple transaction. Here is what we have and here is the price.

Imagine going to any other store that operated on rotation… “Sorry we don’t have soap today. Check back in 3 days to see if we decide to put it on the shelf.” it is a joke…

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Of course, and that will happen anyway. The survey is there to (try to) convince them to sell you things you want to buy, instead of the things you don’t…which only matters if the majority of surveyees agree with you.

It is predatory, in a sense that the “dark patterns” used are designed to prey on the weakest, the most susceptible.

Even if you’re not in the “susceptible” group, it feels like when your favourite youtuber suddenly starts using LinusTech-tier clickbait thumbnails - it might not affect you at all, it might make you unsub, but it doesn’t matter if the influx of new users outweighs you, they will keep doing it.

I’m sorry, but this I feel I have to respond to - no Funcom do not know the financial implications of the changes. They do have access to more data than we do (ie their financial returns), but they are operating on faith and belief just as much as anyone that claims dlcs would make more money. Simply put, even Funcom does not have the data that would actually prove this issue either way. In order to have the truest data, they would need to be able to in effect run the same sequence of time over again, with everything else the same just that one change. But beyond that (clearly impossible) requirement - Funcom used to release 4(ish) dlcs per year, but that was several years ago, with a different player base and different global economy. They then left an extended period of time with no dlcs at all, then came Siptah, then another long period of no dlcs, then Nemedian, then another break, then the change to the current system. Funcom may well be basing their decision on comparing the financial income from 2 years of battlepasses and bazaar vs 2 years of dlc - but which two years? The years when they weren’t releasing dlcs? Or the years when they were releasing them but with a different player base and economy?

Ultimately, the decision is theirs, and if they believe this to be the most effective (profitable) approach, then that is their right. But it is not true to claim that they ‘know’ or can ‘prove’ anything of the sort.

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A few of the questions were weird like favourite snacks (Hawkins Cheezies for the win!) and favourite tv shows. But whatever :slight_smile:

I’d buy and wear a Conan Exiles toque!
If they made one AND if there was shipping to Canada! :canada::smiley:

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The hell? Are they still asking those weirdly intrusive questions?

I guess my answer to that question would be:
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