Please go play and have a look before judging here. I bet most rangers wont be using the park anymore anyways.
Jeetz what is this baby mama drama? 
The change was good, leave it as it is… Now fix necro feats @Mussagana pls
No, I would say Tyyr’s main is barb, but he playes ranger aswell ofc, besides DT, conq, guard, bs… 
It’s good to see FC is still doing some class balances now, surprises me actually so definitively thumbs up for this, great work Funcom! Now change VOM of DT 
What comes first in my mind about changing necro (or any other class with dots) is let dots vanish if the players die who caused the dot 
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Was a needed change, should been changed ages ago thou.
On a side note, anyone who thinks ranger is op in pvp is clueless. Brain dead sure? high dmg ? sure, annoying? hell yes, but still one of the worst classes in pvp.
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True… Rander has not much impact on groups compared to other classes. It had to be fixed though as running shot was exploited. Class balance is fine as is. No further changes needed
Ranger has so many cc + high burst dmg and several dots even good sustain dmg but still has not a high impact for group? You are right! But why are you right? Because there are only k/d whores left in this game playing a ranger. Which ranger you could think of playes his ranger supportive and uses his traps for group, or uses melee cc?
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Any decent player as yourself should know that LOS is a thing in this game, and it can be used. There are many classes with high burst and much cc’s So tell me, why pick a ranger over a pom? Both have insane burst and sustained dmg, pom has better cc’s Pom has heals, dmg shields
Not to mention that pom is … lot tougher to kill don’t you think. Should I go through every class?
And hey as someone who plays sin the most, I probably should have some sort of biased opinion / vendetta against rangers right? yea well I hate them, but yea its… kinda shi**tty class
Why to pick a ranger over pom, for example for premade minigames? I would say that a ranger has much more mobility than a pom. And you are talking about los, this is a big issue for a pom with 3s searing eye, even more than for a ranger. As you say a pom need to heal, so a pom need to consider healing and dishing out dmg. The ranger can go in stealth and pick certain decent player out (casters for example) and nuke the target down. Could a pom do this?
How many cc does a ranger have?
1.) AOE kb (trap)
2.) AOE root (trap)
3.) Ranged snare
4.) Melee stun
5.) ranged stun if feated (playing supportive I would use it over rs)
6.) ranged knock back or ranged fear
7.) Melee root
8.) melee knock back + snare
9.) ranged mezz shot (the only one in this game) out of hide ofc…
Did I miss something? Ranger could also use melee fear, that would be nr. 10!
What cc does a pom have?
1.) AOE kb with 1s cast, very predictable
2.) AOE snare
3.) single target fear
4.) single target stun
Did I miss a cc for pom?
- a pom is a healer. So he is very likely to be focused in team based matches and a ranger has more freedom to do what he want to do
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2 rangers in a team and minigame higly possible will be lost. 1 good Pom in minigame and he’s gonna carry a whole team. Ranger will never be as good as any supportive class. Rangers CC’s are useless for your team because its a class that always stay away.
I’d take a sin or a barb over ranger in any premade minigame.
Just because there are no rangers left in this game (3 possibly who come in my mind now) that take advantages of this class, even though it offers so much. CC are useless for team if ranger is always far away, yes you are right. But that’s the point here, there are only k/d whores left in this game playing a ranger. A good ranger can also dish out huge damage in close range and is still safe: tons of cc (usable for team…) and anti-cc.
Pom and rangers have totally different roles in a match, so it’s better to compare ranger to barb and sin. Why would you take a sin over a ranger? Or would the premade team with a sin win or the premade team with a ranger?
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Always farmed rangers on my hox and don’t see any problems… don’t understand why u whine on them so much.
I think one ppl once wrote its not the idea that one class is equally good against all others nor should it be and that pretty much nails it down. They changed something which was an obvious exploit/bug but this was not an attempt to general balancing which i would not advise to do with the recent attitude of FC to that game. Better not totally ruin it…
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Oh wow it takes what, 0,5 second to cast a blue heal? and big heal for usual pom specs is instant so much time spend in healing. Also poms can easily top kills in premades. and please no ranger in premade gonna go in melee range to dish their cc’s. That ranger gonna be blown up in half a second.
and yeah u did, u missed avatar of mitra. “no one specs it” hey no one specs melee cc’s for ranger either.
““Just because there are no rangers left in this game””
What makes you assume there are good poms left? What if I told you that healers dont need to spend their time spamming heals?
Premades ^
Just 3 from many but, hey I take this anyday over “support” ranger
There is several things i dont get about rangers:
Why medium armor?
Why instant traps?
Why 5% passive movement multiplier?
Why so much cc resistance?
HOW DO THEY SHOOT PEOPLE STAYING BEHIND THEM?!
Hell, its like a tanky mage, with passive speedbuff, eyes in the back instant CC with lots of resist! DAMNIT! xD
Anyone tried to 2v2 a BS Ranger comp with good gear? If so, what classes did you play and how did it turn out?
Melees hit on their back too, works the same way (as much as I dislike it) it is how it is.
Medium armor means really nothing, Barb wears light armor and it takes longer time to put it down than dt or carny conq
5% passive speed is what every rogue get
cc resists? u probably mean rogue general tree and now fixed running shot.
Well from my experience mages… tosses etc are kinda doing massive aoe dmg and looot of debuffs.
I would probably go barb + pom against those. or sin + X healer
Well, my questions was retorical… Also I dont think your comps would do too well against the one I mentioned. Not if the ranger is a good player, however, good players sheldom play Ranger for the same reason I dont.
I would love to play ranger for its outstanding power, but the class is just way too boring, I really cant stand it…
Actually those comps would do pretty well.
And there are some good rangers that been around, but they are not game changers. Its day and night difference if you have crappy healer or a good healer for example. ranger does not just carry that impact no matter who the player is
Ok I think I gonna start a new ranger on saga server then (one of many I guess) and show you what I mean and which impact ranger could have (Hope there will be some cool premades then ofc) Didn’t touch my ranger for long time and didn’t feel like to play AoC anymore but since saga server has some cool features I will give it a try.
BTW I didn’t know that healing is just about the cast time of the heal… well then, I missed something the last 6k minis I did on my bs, but thx to tell me how to heal, Delred!
U still have not learned to heal, I have always complained about that and always will. It does not matter if you have played 100 mini games or 10000 minis. You do lot of dmg and kills but healing is not your strong part
Pah! I played much more supportive over the last two years, just u didn’t notice it
Just curious, do you have pics of premades where a ranger participated, a good one? If yes can u upload it please?