Nudity Lmfao Question

I am not entirely sure in the specific case of Conan Exiles.

However, the actual problem is physical game shops (which are slowly vanishing as more games go virtual). Shops do not want to sell adult media because it gives them a bad reputation against the family-friendly environment they want to present. They’ll often refuse to carry any game/movies/whatever with adult ratings.

This causes the game companies to lose potential retailers, and that means less sales, and that means less money. So the game companies will simply not have those kinds of games as they aren’t worth it.

Companies have regional branches who would decide what to sell, so while Sony Group Corporation itself may not have any rules against nudity, the Sony America branch might make regional rulings because they think a lower-rated game will be more profitable.

This is all determined by the businesses and shareholders deciding how they want to operate. There are no laws in the USA regarding what is allowed in video games. When people complained to the US Congress that violent video games were being unwittingly sold to children, the ESRB (a private organization - not a governmental entity) was established to assign ratings to games so that parents would be kept informed (in theory), and most businesses would outright refuse to sell games that did not receive an ESRB rating. However, getting a game rated is voluntary and whether a business chooses to sell unrated games is also voluntary.

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Again, Cyberpunk has full Nudity on consoles.

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Heard of the game not in my radar. Dragon Age I believe had some hot and heavy love scenes as I remember but not fully nude been a long time ago. Also not as realistic as today’s games can be
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This is mostly accurate.
However, Video Games are covered under digital media, as per the DMCA. There are numerous new and exciting Digital Media laws currently making the rounds.
Most don’t target the producer, but instead the publisher or distributor of the media.

It’s a matter of what the many different levels from creator to final merchant and platform vendor feel like risking.

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Even if your remarks are founded and we make sense, because I know that it is permeated that a poorly rated or subject to Pollimique is not seller, I find this start from the publishers and Vendors completely hypocritical.
As cited above in certain games (GTA) and other we can assassinate, kill passers by car Sell illegal substances etc …
I think that the public simply not the same values ​​as the censor.
For example Dayz is prohibited in Australia because players can take care of themselves with grass but not out that there is canibalism!? .
Nudity can pose problem I understand it, but if we explain our children to make the share of things between a naked human (it’s nature) without shocking or provocative poses I think he will understand the situation, on the other hand we cannot legitimately show murders and your abominations seen on certain games.
our monotheist religions we tended to make us forget that in the past Light of us lived naked and some cultures find nothing to complain about this.
For my part I do not consider that as a problem if this one (nudity) is not provocative or shocking.
With regard to the opinions of the censors I have seen visits that very relatives do not take it into account when buying a media for their children, as for the seller, having a lot of the eyes of the moment when a sale is do .

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Yeah, this is definitely a major part of the decision-making. Rather than a global censorship of all games, they consider which retailers they want to carry their product. That’s why e.g. Sony or Microsoft don’t necessarily censor all of the games they publish, but only those they want to sell to a broader audience in brick&mortar stores.

I guess in the case of Cyberpunk 2077, they either decided that everyone wanted to carry that product in their store no matter its ratings, or they calculated that their target audience would find the game online. I can’t remember if our local supermarkets sold it, but I do remember seeing console versions of Conan Exiles on their shelves.

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The reason Cyberpunk has full nudity and such is because of the revenue it generates and Sony/Microsoft aren’t going to stick to their principles if it means losing out on that.

Money will make companies drop principles nearly instantly. And it isn’t like their customers are holding their feet to the fire over it one way or another anyway. Gamers are part of the subculture that when they do protest, they give out in 48 hours (aka like what happened with reddit). So even if there was a complaint, all the company has to do is wait them out.

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I am going to check out Walmart to see if you can buy cyber punk in store for in US.

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Walmart has European version and State side Amazon has US version. This is for playstation

Thats cause almost every excuse is the reason.

Its no A. or B. Black or White, Yes or No.

As mention… ESRB is its own thing, and they have random people who look at games…
One game might get an old lady with nudity issues and be raving mad…
They say this is rating, and then several parties(or 1 party) have a choice to make changes if they want.

Not mention, things like bad press can cause it.
GTA SA almost got AO cause of some stuff, were as GTAV had full, (semi hidden) and manage an M.
But Rockstar doesn’t really give 2 ****. But “Hot Coffee” was both good and bad press that got game in the News

Last of Us Part II had some graphic stuff… manage its rating. Sony pushed it out.
So Clearly Sony doesn’t give 2 **** ether sometimes.

Witcher 3 manage to go M rated, but they didn’t get crazy with sex scenes. They kept it to a safe set of rules. Manage to keep and M rating.
Look, They manage to sneak full nudity into Ps5 version… And then had patch it out.
Cause people had an issue.

Cyberpunk falls in same thing… The Full Nudity is there… they 100% adjusted how it work and limited it. Even forcing camera being unable to move certain ways.

Watchdogs, is another games… had full nudity. People took issue. They gave abunch of NPC underwear.
Then low and behold… some kid, shared a under dress shot showing certain NPC had full V’s. They had Patch it out cause it caused a Stir.

I assume… Funcom or someone said Hey… were getting alot of press about Penis Sliders… Umm maybe we can not do that State Side, cause cry babies might have an issue.

I don’t blame Sony… its clear they don’t care…Inless of Course someone has an issue or brings it up.

Most of time… its a merid of things that cause a game to get M/AO over stupidest things.
Its not a Fair System.
Look… PC gets full versions… cause PC…

Anyway… People like to Blame “one” thing cause its Easy to do, and easy to understand.
Theres no 1 thing here that cause it, outside someone Staff looking at all that could happen… maybe tossed a coin.
and Bam…

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Wtf cares about rating anyway? :smile:
I never heard of anyone passing on a game because of it.

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Just wanted to politely correct you there mynotaure. I hail from Australia, and we do have full nudity on Conan Exiles in our nation. We receive the UK version of games down here.

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XXX BMX.

Jog any memories?

Also Point out,

NA and UK Rating have are abit different.

UK/PAL>JPN Pegi/CERO Systems have a M rating 18 and a AO,
Where as NA ESRB is just M or AO.

Its very easy for a game in NA system to be marked AO, with out anything to fall back on, outside removing something to get the M Rating.

Its one of faults with ESRB system. Which is why I often do lean, and pint finger at them. They don’t leave alot of room. And Alot of games slip thru…some don’t.

UK/PAL Copy is Hit with 18. Noting its for Adults only, ands it not the P-word(cause it gets censored here XD)

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In case any Americans aren’t aware, if you own the regional DLC all you have to do is set your Xbox settings to New Zealand time zone and you will get full nudity in game. However your console won’t allow you to capture screens or record/post any game clips of it. But it’s there

Edit. Amusing at first but overrated.

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