It’s not like fire and forget.
Yep some folks will get salty if they lose a fight. I think that is still preferable compared to folks just losing everything without a fight due to offline raids and just quietly quitting the game…
Not sure I follow your logic as to true “PVP” players somehow not needing to worry about losing material things such as legendaries, etc. What? Of course you want to be as well armed and armored as possible in PVP and in order to do so you need the right thralls and mats. Sure it is possible to win a fight while being naked with iron daggers (I’ve done it) but generally speaking you will be at a disadvantage and thus there is a reason folks are trying to get the best crafting thralls and gear. Stinks to spend all the time farming those items and then lose them all because you decided to take one night off.
Once again give us DBD on some servers to try it out. The other solution would be to enable some sort of banking system so that you can protect a limited number of items (think V-Rising as an example).
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I’ve wondered the same thing. Based on their actions it does appear that FC thinks most players like “hard core” full loot/offline raids. Clearly there are players who do like that but I’d argue the vast majority of players would prefer a balance between “hard core” and just having fun. Having to watch bases 5 hrs every night is just not that fun.
I’d also argue that a lot of folks who think they like “hard core”/full loot only believe that when they are on top and winning. I’ve been part of PVP clans but all of them fell apart (and most folks quit playing) when some stronger clan showed up and beat us (resulting in howls of “they must have cheated”)…
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“5 ppl” nah dude. You have to understand 99% of the players aint reading the forums. 5 players wanted a balance update and they got what they asked.
Offline raiding is a part of the game in my opinion, even if I dont like it and does it myself I still see it as a part of the game.
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Nah, I counted 3 here 
I just left some leeway for those not on the forums 
Exaggeration aside though, what I was trying to highlight - and this is a well known fact and not something I came up with - is that Funcom tends to give in to very loud minorities on occasion. In fact if I remember right, the very reason you do not have DBD enabled on officials was exactly this… a handful of people were systematically complaining and coming up with doomsday-scenarios before it ever got a chance to be implemented.
Please go play PVE or PVE-C, and stop asking to nerf PVP servers because you can not be there to defend your base!!! Or play on private servers with 1 hour raid, 3 day only per week.
When you play on an official PVP server, you know what to expect
Okey we say so Mr Iknoweverything
No, nothing like that… More like Igoandlookstuffupforpeopletohelpthemout…
but still you don’t pay me enough for it to where I would be required to remain “professional” all the time, so just because I occasionally try to post some informative stuff, I’m still allowed to have my hour of fun on the forums, no? 
If not… then I’ll just leave 
Thralls not defending your base from scouts outside raid hours always struck me as stupid. V Rising also has raid hours, but thralls will attack people who get too close to your base while also being unkillable outside raid hours. I think that’s more than fair.
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offline raiding is a good way for solo rats to hit big clans or casual players. with the 4x harvesting and a slow server a good rat such as myself can come in and level up in a couple days then start farming for dp. by the time you even know im there i already got the mats for 1000+ bombs and i’ve scouted your base and i have a good idea how much youre on during raid time. if i’m seen i’ll just rp as a friendy noob and might even throw a noob style base on the river if i’m spotted while i’m cooking dp in my rat hole. once i get a good haul, i’ll bodyvault and move on to the next server
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Why you keep crying about a Katana exploit? You wanna keep exploiting it?
Lances doing multiple hits were not intended as well.
Jeez…
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Yes and lances aren’t katanas… so your point being?
You on the other hand are still true to your name
Shoo…
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When I was still active, better raid protection was one of the things I was always saytng we needed.
I don’t think off line raiding should be removed, I think all raiding including off line raiding should be harder, and off line raids should be nearly but not completely impossible.
As my good friend @Barnes said earlier in this thread, thralls were deadly in EA, But got nerf hammered, while raid tools just got better and better.
We need protection tools, Deadly thralls, turrets, spike traps that work, false floors that crumble at a raiders footstep, spring loaded walls that insta kill raiders if not turned off, fighters that wont crumble because they ran toward the exploding door. SMALLER vaults and benches not BIGGER.
Ways to camouflage a base.
I didn’t leave because we don’t have adequate raid protection, but if we had it, it might make me more inclined to make time to return.
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No need to return. Game is officially an (Erotik) Role Playing game. Just look at the top servers…
You know exactly what my point is. You just try to hide all facts so you can continue exploiting.
Maybe you should start exploiting bows. If you haven’t noticed the damage output already.
No no, I really don’t and I haven’t been exploiting anything to be fair…
But here, I’m just going to refer you to this then.
Anyone who actually bothers to read that and has more than 2 braincells will immediately understand where I’m coming from as long as they aren’t actively trying not to…
I’m not trying to cause any fights and I’m most certainly not “crying”. What I did was look into it and that’s what I found… and obviously I did not want it to be nerfed in the ground like it has so that annoys me, just like the incoming pet nerf annoys me, but it’s whatever.
A number of people made a fair warning even on the initial thread that once we start asking for nerfs… things are going to end up useless. If they leave it the way it is on testlive… the katana special does less damage than a light attack, so I’m not sure whether that’s what you were after either…
In any case this was my last attempt to “reason” on this subject
Cheers!
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Using the Devkit is witchcraft and heresy.
I found that out when trying to explain to people how the damage of Lightning Storm worked. Or back a few years ago concerning how bow and arrow damage works. People fear what they cannot comprehend. And your average gamer these days has the ability to reason similar to a gold fish.
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So people can spam unkillable thralls around the map?
Doesn’t work in this game, land claim is very different in V Rising
I feel like this happened one time. Either for a short period they tried it. Or there was a bug with raid/PVP times. But this would have been a few years ago.
I think there’s a kind of a vicious circle going on here. Because offline raiding is possible, PvP servers tend to attract the kind of people who enjoy setting other people’s houses on fire. These same people then give Funcom feedback on how offline raiding is fine.
People who would prefer some rules of engagement will get pushed away from the servers by these bullies, gravitating towards private servers, leaving the offline raiders kings of the anthill. And so the official servers are populated with an increasing percentage of people who want offline raiding to remain.
As you said, at least as long as they’re not in the receiving end.
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You are still going on about this? Come on now we all know @SirDaveWolf made a very reasonable post about katanas. Not loud in any way what so every. So your theory is false. You really think they would listen to one post about a balance and act on it immediately? It took months and a ton of posts about lances similar multiple hits at once to get addressed. They did a terrible job addressing that but oh well we the players aren’t making the changes.
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