Public server wipes

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Of course hoarding puts pressure on the server. On the other hand, the game pushes you to that, you loot, you can store, you decay, you can store.
I try to limit myself a bit and am now living with one storage base, which i built completely out of the way, so it doesn’t produce lag for highly frequented places.
On the other hand, I quite enjoy having things available when i need them.
I use 2 dump vaults and when they are full the stuff gets put in the dismanteling bench or is sorted in the appropriate, labeled chests.
In the old days my storages used to look like this, guess you could call that organized hoarding :smiley:

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Do I have to start every sentence with IMO :man_facepalming:

No, that is a just because you can doesn’t mean you should, thing.

As I have steadily maintained, I’d rather funcom rewrite the ToC to make it far less vague.
Make areas that will get you suspended for building in no build zones.
Give players a description of how they are violating the ToC when they are warned.
Same if they get suspended.
Funcom admin ought to be able to tell what is and whom is causing server lag do to excessive storage.
Funcom needs to come up with a far better way to enforce the ToC.
As I have said the entire system falls flat on it’s face when it is left up to the players to do all the leg work.

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If you’d quit because the work done is gone, you already left the game. Games aren’t about the end stuff but the journey to get there. Too many of you are arguing to maintain a monopoly game indefinitely after you have all the properties.

This is why the game struggles. Sure you’re having fun but those that come on, the board is already taken and prime spots reserved for folks that have 5 years into the game…and no you shouldn’t get special treatment because of your tenure. In fact your tenure should mean you relent your claims to allow the next generation their turn on these prime spots while you scout for more unique options.

I was told that officials are for the Conan player to get their feet wet and the idea was that they would move towards another option afterwards. Many of the no wipes have publicly stated as such. This is why it’s very confusing to hear these same people defend the overbuilt servers in open defiance against new player experiences. It doesn’t make sense. You want permanency, go private.

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Have they fixed the shelf chest trick so it’s stable or do you just live dangerously?

well…

I honestly have to ask you now if that is your opinion, or have you done any research on the matter other than observe your server?
Because if that isn’t actually the problem all the rest you are saying is based on nonsense.
If somebody can’t identify the actual cause of the problem, how can he formulate a solution to it?
Might aswell start preying, I guess.

What I’m trying to say is: until we know for certain what the actual cause of the lag is, the discussion is moot, and any solutions based on guesswork is nonsense.
You try to sell server wipes as if they are that magic bullet that would solve the issues, but I think we have established that we don’t know that AND even if it is that magic bullet, without systemic change on FUNCOM’s side, a few weeks later we are back to laggy servers.

if you want permancy stay on officials, always been like that.
That whole thing of get your feet wet and then move on is ridiculous.
I play on the same official since day 1 and yes I tried privates and while they have niche uses, proper vanilla experience is official.
You are right, people shouldn’t hog spots and come to think of it, there barely is a spot on the map where i haven’t had a base.
But there is a difference between choosing to move and getting your stuff wiped.
Sure I could body vault stuff before every wipe, but by now I have settled into a rhythm where when I build something new, I have to tear down something old, but that is my personal guideline.
Our official server is and mostly has been one of the more populated servers and the only crowded place is mounds, you even have build spots at sinkhole.
With the declining player base, wipes and overpopulation are not an issue anymore, at least on our server.
I actually would like to see more builds, it is getting a bit empty tbh.

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the picture was from before the whole shelf disaster, quite long ago.
My storage now is much, much smaller and i still don’t dare to use shelves

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I believe, they know what is causing the lag, aside from small breasted cheapo servers, which makes it even funnier/sadder.
Remember before 2.4, when people literally had thousands of thralls out and the thrall limit was introduced to reduce server lag?
They seem to have forgotten that and introduced 4 thrall/npc related systems, which are far more resource intensive than anything before: thrall custom animations, new purge, the tavern and living settlements.
You do the math.
I wonder if the game would have been the success it was if the ad slogan would have been: explore, build small, don’t store instead of explore, build, dominate :smiley:

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Some one I regard as knowledgeable on the subject.

I’m not selling anything I’m postulating a theorem.
I have said add nausium in this thread this is my opinion, speculation and that only based on my experience. I’ve said only funcom has the information we’d need to know. I’ve conceded those points repeatedly, yet you run back to them for your base argument.
I’ve also pointed out that it’s an absurd notion someone would buildup as much stored content in 2 weeks as it took 6 years to buildup. I’m not saying a concerted effort by a full clan doing nothing but collecting mats for 2 week couldn’t do it, but to what purpose? What clan in regualr game play is going to do that?
None, the answer is none.

I’ve played this game since it dropped. Restarted 100 times. I doubt I’ve built on 10% of the map total.

I’m not saying just out of the blue wipe, give people fair warning.

What if it was a total wipe?

You think people would be building kingdoms on the public server if the game intro didn’t show the witch queen doing just that?
My opinion that intro is the rise of the witch queen story, not an encouragement to build Hogwarts.

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I probably would have played through 2-3 of those and then moved on to another game.

Of course they would, building is one of the strong suits of this game.

While over the course of time, I have adopted a more utilitarian way of building, but still aim at making them interesting and look nice and not to repeat the same thing over and over. Stil I enjoy very much when people put an effort in their builds and not just put up sandstone boxes and of those are more than enough.

I have different proposition, don’t allow T1 buildings north of noob territory :slight_smile:

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I’m going to say something now.
This not my opinion, it’s not a rebuttal to any statement.
It’s just a fact.

Regular server wipes of officials has been tried.
It was in 2017 before launch when the game was still in early access.
They were called Blitz servers, they wiped every 30 days.
And they were empty, stone cold no players empty.

The main reason to play on line is to play with other people.
I’m sure there were people who wanted these servers to work and tried to keep going, but ultimately they left those servers too.
Battle metrics still worked back then and every Blitz server showed no activity.
I was one of the people that tried to play on these servers.

This part is my opinion.
After that monumental failure I have doubts about if FC would ever try regular wipes again.

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Yeah but come on. 30 days is unreasonable for this game. Annual would be fine for PvE and 3 to 6 months for pvp. For FC to point to a 30 day restart schedule as the rationale for never looking at it again is just disingenuous and they never seriously wanted it to begin with. Plus they launched it with the other option in the one server type that doesn’t have a problem with crowding. Players at the time saw no reason to join mandated wipe when there wasn’t a need for it. The whole thing smacks of paying lip service to an idea and using the failure as justification for their original stances. In other words, they designed it to fail and then used this data as support for their original desires.

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Why 3 of my friends play in ps4 and they cant buy a ps5 yet and the new ark can just be played in ps5 and most time when i log in conan to play with they i can see how bad the things are here and i played conan since release when combat was good , when thralls was strenght and good for pve and PVP , when we have 1000 thralls and no lag and when the rules are simple and worked just for toxic players.

you might dont know how is playing in group or with friends or begin good know by the community since you are always giving patetic ideias about conan.

If your “ideias” are good why dont you open a private server you can add all your rules like living in little cabins , having land flags , wiping servers periodic and no storing loot
Your ideias are the “Best” no? You can be rich bro all the people will leave official servers to join your server you can call it “Deacon exiles world” and if you need help call Xevyr for help with mods and erjoh to help with moderation
Maybe Elon musk will buy you ideia… :folded_hands:

No, I know, however, client side lag is still taken into consideration in the ToC. But how is Funcom to know a player is being honest about minimum requirements? And from my understanding, rarely are those questions asked and blanket assign tickets under the “land claim” banner.

So, it bears questioning to what extent is there issue with players having less than minimum requirements - and the possibility that minimum requirements require update - so with that possible consideration, a portion of lag that is experienced is due to that?

I know that there is much to be considered in regard to GPortal and optimization, but how much of your specific quibbles are because your system does not meet minimum requirements?

I am not saying you’re at fault here. I am saying that players should give some leeway because I do not believe at this point we all have the facts.

I take issue with that in many regards. SOP notwithstanding.

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he play alone in he private server and years ago asked to nerf thralls and check thralls now very good no?

Just because you play it way doesnt mean all people shall play the same way and in fact just a very small part of people play the way you are playing.

Dead game , GG Conan and maye 3000 players to 1000 maybe 500?

Again YOUR OPINION
But let remember what they are giving for us now

Big pets like the big bear from jherbal event
Big basins like the jherbal event
Tavern system
Big animal pens
Big benchs
Big maps
Big pets like yetis giants elephants
Big wheel of pain
New purge with new archer post and cauldrons
Everytime new decorations and new build sets with big things un bazar
And for last our new beloved living system.

I think after reading it if your head really work you will see “YOUR OPINION” go against everything they are giving for players now.

They didnt know about the blitz servers
I already posted about it in the other useless thread about rollback servers and the same guy @DeaconElie have made the other thread he made a poll asking for rollback and the response was NO
But yet he will always spam the forum with nosense things like people shall live in little cabins , having landflags , dont holding loot and restart character every week.

If you don’t want to take the time to proof read your posts so they are understandable, I don’t want to take the time to try to make any sense of them.

I think the issue is the language barrier, you constantly accuse me of saying things I’ve never said, so I’m going to assume you use some sort of translation app that is rephrasing what I’ve said.

Just in case Funcom reads this for input:

• Do not wipe servers. I’d probably stop playing.
• Optimize code for efficiency. The game encourages some amount of hoarding. Code needs to deal with it - not the players. I’d be fine giving up the chest preview if needed. There are some stack sizes that should be increased.
• Improve gportal server hardware. Also allow console to use non gportal servers.
• Enforce ToC on officials thru code by preventing builds from blocking passages and have a max building piece limit or size.
• If other ToC cannot be prevented programmatically, warn before banning and give reasons during warning and banning so people learn what they did.
• I kind of like the idea of requiring higher tier mats as you get to harder biomes to reduce stone foundation spamming.

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Just for the sake of clarification regarding this thread…
Does the OP have a good point? Yes it does… servers would run miles better after a wipe… even on the same poop quality gportal hardware.

Would people rebuild eventually and make them just as bad? Yes… though that’s why when servers wipe… they generally do it periodically (there’s lots of private servers even for Conan that do seasonal wipes every 6 months or so and other games also do it officially). So while one wipe wouldn’t last forever… repeating it on a cycle would make them run better. This is a fact. Would the same cluttered database run better on a server provided by a quality host? Absolutely… so there’s improvements to be made on that front.

With that being said… just to clarify, this entire topic is pretty much theoretical.
Why?.. Because Dennis, as the Game Director of Conan Exiles already confirmed multiple times that there will never be a wipe on official servers. It’s not something that they “hinted at” or something that they weren’t sure about… it’s something that he flat out announced.
Whether that would change down the line… not sure… but my guess would be no, so while the topic might be interesting to theoretically discuss, most likely that’s all it is ever going to be.


@AndersonKain as for you… I would recommend you re-read the community guidelines of the forums.
If you disagree with somebody, that’s fair enough… feel free to voice your opinion and tell them what you disagree with and why…
However you seem to keep constantly misrepresenting others and try to attack their person in an attempt to dismiss what they’re actually saying, simply because you decided you don’t like them, but you can’t come up with any rebuttal to what they’re saying. That’s not okay and is actually against the rules of this forum.

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A “theoretical discussion” can also be called a conceptual debate, academic discourse, hypothetical discussion, speculative conversation, or philosophical discussion; essentially, any term that emphasizes the focus on abstract ideas and principles rather than practical applications.