Purges Fail to Spawn

Game mode: Online private
Type of issue: Bug
Server type: PvE
Region: North America


For about the past month, some players on my server (not all) have been having a really difficult time getting purges to actually attack them. The purge will just keep repeating Starting/Ending in the event log, sometimes for hours on end before they finally get the announcement on-screen. This happens regardless of whether they’ve filled their purge meter legitimately, or whether I use the PurgeClan command on their behalf.

To the best of my knowledge, none of the mods we run so much as touch any files related to the purge.

A good example of this was last night when we we had only 1 player over the purge threshold, yet it kept failing to start for mysterious reasons:

[2020.05.18-23.01.47:266][885]ConanSandbox: Purge Started at V(X=361587.03, Y=120808.01, Z=-20178.61) for Clan 10683, Using Wave A nest of snakes
[2020.05.18-23.04.17:668][143]ConanSandbox: Purge Failed for Clan 10683, At Location V(X=357535.84, Y=120333.04, Z=-18881.36), Using Wave A nest of snakes, Reason Failed Failed to find Home location
[2020.05.18-23.06.47:775][413]ConanSandbox: Purge Started at V(X=80043.77, Y=159491.63, Z=-18323.31) for Clan 10683, Using Wave A bask of lizards
[2020.05.18-23.09.48:696][505]ConanSandbox: Purge Failed for Clan 10683, At Location V(X=82693.73, Y=158343.95, Z=-19791.32), Using Wave A bask of lizards, Reason Failed Failed to validate any spawn points
[2020.05.18-23.11.48:346][891]ConanSandbox: Purge Started at V(X=79073.92, Y=168206.14, Z=-17919.07) for Clan 10683, Using Wave A cackle of Hyenas
[2020.05.18-23.14.49:120][ 14]ConanSandbox: Purge Failed for Clan 10683, At Location V(X=83229.57, Y=166809.75, Z=-18044.55), Using Wave A cackle of Hyenas, Reason Failed Failed to validate any spawn points
[2020.05.18-23.16.49:015][381]ConanSandbox: Purge Started at V(X=80043.77, Y=159491.63, Z=-18323.31) for Clan 10683, Using Wave Cultists
[2020.05.18-23.19.49:881][511]ConanSandbox: Purge Failed for Clan 10683, At Location V(X=83526.02, Y=163255.58, Z=-17832.44), Using Wave Cultists, Reason Failed Failed to validate any spawn points
[2020.05.18-23.21.49:592][908]ConanSandbox: Purge Started at V(X=-137706.45, Y=-35541.19, Z=-4814.48) for Clan 10683, Using Wave An army of nordheimers
[2020.05.18-23.24.20:011][127]ConanSandbox: Purge Failed for Clan 10683, At Location V(X=-137706.45, Y=-35541.19, Z=-4814.48), Using Wave An army of nordheimers, Reason Failed Failed to find Home location
[2020.05.18-23.26.50:172][350]ConanSandbox: Purge Started at V(X=361587.03, Y=120808.01, Z=-20178.61) for Clan 10683, Using Wave Dagon Slave-takers
[2020.05.18-23.29.20:684][587]ConanSandbox: Purge Failed for Clan 10683, At Location V(X=357535.84, Y=120333.04, Z=-18881.36), Using Wave Dagon Slave-takers, Reason Failed Failed to find Home location
[2020.05.18-23.31.50:760][800]ConanSandbox: Purge Started at V(X=361587.03, Y=120808.01, Z=-20178.61) for Clan 10683, Using Wave A band of Lemurian Scouts
[2020.05.18-23.34.21:257][ 55]ConanSandbox: Purge Failed for Clan 10683, At Location V(X=357535.84, Y=120333.04, Z=-18881.36), Using Wave A band of Lemurian Scouts, Reason Failed Failed to find Home location
[2020.05.18-23.36.51:368][297]ConanSandbox: Purge Started at V(X=-137706.45, Y=-35541.19, Z=-4814.48) for Clan 10683, Using Wave Cimmerian Berserkers
[2020.05.18-23.39.21:903][520]ConanSandbox: Purge Failed for Clan 10683, At Location V(X=-137706.45, Y=-35541.19, Z=-4814.48), Using Wave Cimmerian Berserkers, Reason Failed Failed to find Home location
[2020.05.18-23.41.52:040][742]ConanSandbox: Purge Started at V(X=361587.03, Y=120808.01, Z=-20178.61) for Clan 10683, Using Wave Razor Gord's Kitchen Staff
[2020.05.18-23.44.22:532][951]ConanSandbox: Purge Failed for Clan 10683, At Location V(X=361587.03, Y=120808.01, Z=-20178.61), Using Wave Razor Gord's Kitchen Staff, Reason Failed Failed to find Home location
[2020.05.18-23.46.52:743][181]ConanSandbox: Purge Started at V(X=80043.77, Y=159491.63, Z=-18323.31) for Clan 10683, Using Wave An avalanche of Rocknoses
[2020.05.18-23.49.23:274][401]ConanSandbox: Purge Failed for Clan 10683, At Location V(X=83526.02, Y=163255.58, Z=-17832.44), Using Wave An avalanche of Rocknoses, Reason Failed Failed to find Home location
[2020.05.18-23.51.53:548][564]ConanSandbox: Purge Started at V(X=80043.77, Y=159491.63, Z=-18323.31) for Clan 10683, Using Wave A cackle of Hyenas
[2020.05.18-23.54.23:949][772]ConanSandbox: Purge Failed for Clan 10683, At Location V(X=83526.02, Y=163255.58, Z=-17832.44), Using Wave A cackle of Hyenas, Reason Failed Failed to find Home location
[2020.05.18-23.56.54:077][ 20]ConanSandbox: Purge Started at V(X=-200740.02, Y=137969.00, Z=-5406.32) for Clan 10683, Using Wave A nest of scorpions
[2020.05.18-23.59.24:704][253]ConanSandbox: Purge Failed for Clan 10683, At Location V(X=-200740.02, Y=137969.00, Z=-5406.32), Using Wave A nest of scorpions, Reason Failed Failed to find Home location
[2020.05.19-00.01.54:770][502]ConanSandbox: Purge Started at V(X=80043.77, Y=159491.63, Z=-18323.31) for Clan 10683, Using Wave A bask of lizards
[2020.05.19-00.04.25:287][721]ConanSandbox: Purge Failed for Clan 10683, At Location V(X=83526.02, Y=163255.58, Z=-17832.44), Using Wave A bask of lizards, Reason Failed Failed to find Home location
[2020.05.19-00.06.29:564][228]ConanSandbox: Purge Started at V(X=-137706.45, Y=-35541.19, Z=-4814.48) for Clan 10683, Using Wave An army of nordheimers
[2020.05.19-00.09.30:333][346]ConanSandbox: Purge Failed for Clan 10683, At Location V(X=-137706.45, Y=-35541.19, Z=-4814.48), Using Wave An army of nordheimers, Reason Failed Failed to validate any spawn points
[2020.05.19-00.09.30:367][347]ConanSandbox: Purge Started at V(X=80043.77, Y=159491.63, Z=-18323.31) for Clan 10683, Using Wave A cackle of Hyenas
[2020.05.19-00.12.00:924][567]ConanSandbox: Purge Failed for Clan 10683, At Location V(X=83526.02, Y=163255.58, Z=-17832.44), Using Wave A cackle of Hyenas, Reason Failed Failed to find Home location
[2020.05.19-00.14.31:160][842]ConanSandbox: Purge Started at V(X=80043.77, Y=159491.63, Z=-18323.31) for Clan 10683, Using Wave Cultists
[2020.05.19-00.17.01:892][ 94]ConanSandbox: Purge Failed for Clan 10683, At Location V(X=83526.02, Y=163255.58, Z=-17832.44), Using Wave Cultists, Reason Failed Failed to find Home location
[2020.05.19-00.17.26:427][799]ConanSandbox: Purge Started at V(X=68116.35, Y=173518.94, Z=-10860.88) for Clan 10683, Using Wave An army of nordheimers
[2020.05.19-00.19.56:902][ 86]ConanSandbox: Purge Failed for Clan 10683, At Location V(X=68116.35, Y=173518.94, Z=-10860.88), Using Wave An army of nordheimers, Reason Failed Failed to find Home location
[2020.05.19-00.19.56:936][ 87]ConanSandbox: Purge Started at V(X=361587.03, Y=120808.01, Z=-20178.61) for Clan 10683, Using Wave A nest of snakes
[2020.05.19-00.22.27:554][360]ConanSandbox: Purge Failed for Clan 10683, At Location V(X=361587.03, Y=120808.01, Z=-20178.61), Using Wave A nest of snakes, Reason Failed Failed to find Home location

Had player logout/in again.

[2020.05.19-00.24.57:705][646]ConanSandbox: Purge Started at V(X=-200740.02, Y=137969.00, Z=-5406.32) for Clan 10683, Using Wave A nest of scorpions

Actual Purge Starts:
[2020.05.19-00.40.21:300][729]ConanSandbox: Purge Started at V(X=-199090.63, Y=136500.44, Z=-5433.61) for Clan 10683, Using Wave A nest of scorpions

Purge ends after 1 wave:
[2020.05.19-00.40.21:364][731]ConanSandbox: Purge Failed for Clan 10683, At Location V(X=-200740.02, Y=137969.00, Z=-5406.32), Using Wave A nest of scorpions, Reason Failed No valid paths found

Admin-triggered purge, started promptly:
[2020.05.19-00.42.24:466][217]ConanSandbox: Purge Started at V(X=-200740.02, Y=137969.00, Z=-5406.32) for Clan 10683, Using Wave An army of nordheimers
[2020.05.19-00.57.39:859][ 67]ConanSandbox: Purge Started at V(X=-199750.00, Y=137250.00, Z=-5332.24) for Clan 10683, Using Wave An army of nordheimers
[2020.05.19-01.02.46:473][656]ConanSandbox: Purge Started at V(X=-199750.00, Y=137250.00, Z=-5332.24) for Clan 10683, Using Wave An army of nordheimers

Since all of that might be a bit difficult to parse, I’ve broken it down in a few different ways and uploaded them to my DropBox here:

Server Log Raw = A download of the server log from the time it did its evening reboot until just after we finally got a purge to complete for this player.
Server Log Trimmed = What I pasted above, still in chronological order.
Locations = The Trimmed log in a mor human-readable format, still in chronological order.
LocationsGrouped = Non-chronological grouping of all the different coordinates by the base they were attacking. “Target” denotes the spot the purge said it would attack in the first message, “Results” denotes where the purge said it was trying to attack in the failure message, and what the failure reason was.
LocationsUnique = The key to the teleports I perform in the video I took of their bases showing that there’s nothing underhanded about how the bases were constructed. These are also noted in the Description below the video on YouTube.

In case you don’t want to see under the mesh, etc…

Jungle Base



Targets
1A TeleportPlayer 361587.03 120808.01 -20178.61
Results
1A TeleportPlayer 361587.03 120808.01 -20178.61
1B TeleportPlayer 357535.84 120333.04 -18881.36

I5 Base


Target
2A TeleportPlayer 80043.77 159491.63 -18323.31
Results
2B TeleportPlayer 82693.73 158343.95 -19791.32
2C TeleportPlayer 83526.02 163255.58 -17832.44

Target
3A TeleportPlayer 79073.92 168206.14 -17919.07
Results
3B TeleportPlayer 83229.57 166809.75 -18044.55

Mounds Base



Target
4A TeleportPlayer -137706.45 -35541.19 -4814.48
Results
4A TeleportPlayer -137706.45 -35541.19 -4814.48

Sepermeru Base




Target
5A TeleportPlayer -200740.02 137969.00 -5406.32
Results
5A TeleportPlayer -200740.02 137969.00 -5406.32
5B TeleportPlayer -199090.63 136500.44 -5433.61
5C TeleportPlayer -199750.00 137250.00 -5332.24

Additionally, when the purge did finally start at the Sepermeru outpost, portions of the waves were actually spawning in the courtyard where 5B and 5C were, even though most of the purge was spawning at 3 or 4 points about 30-50 meters outside the base as they should. Not sure if the Egress door was confusing the purge or not, but we’ve seen similar behavior at other bases that aren’t using them, so I felt it was worth mentioning.


Please provide a step-by-step process of how the bug can be reproduced. The more details you provide us with the easier it will be for us to find and fix the bug:

  1. Fill purge meter, or have admin use PurgeClan command for you
  2. See the “A purge has started…” entry in your Event Log
  3. Wait
  4. See the “A purge has ended” enty in your Event Log without a purge ever actually being declared on screen and never having anything spaw.
  5. Repeat steps 2-4 ad nauseum.
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@Ignasi Any ideas on this one? It took quite a long while to compile everything…

They now teleport to attack point do to leash issues.

So basiclly Purge will start, they’ll start there “march to attack point” But once within argo range, they trigger there to far from start point. (AKA attack point) and teleport to it.

Full sets of walls, doors, fences doesnt seem be issue.

During few of my test runs, I got the logs to bug out on ps4. (starts and stops instantly) Cause foundations they were attacking was half in ground. (I assume they all fell thru map, died and caused next wave)

The New leash system has them teleporting all weird, On top of objects, roofs, inside objects.

Its good idea to have guards inside now, and when Purge starts, find and try and locate Red X, to move anything important away, and wall it off or make them a ramp if needed.
(it can suck when boss spawns this way) Almost lost my storage room last night.

I Notice not all teleport, If I rush out. (like picture (last) to 5a, I can catch some of them. But many will teleport to 5c(lets say that corner is attack point)

(this is on ps4 side anyway)

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Yep, on a different purge that I had at one of my bases, Lemurian Scouts were teleporting up on top of my awnings and roof where they were getting killed by the “failsafe” defenders I position there. (Hence why I was so agitated in another thread about followers teleporting down from higher guard positions.)

I was quite chagrinned to have lost not one but four Derketo named priests that purge when that was literally the ONLY named I was hoping to get from a Lemurian purge. :sob:

The strange thing is, with some purges (like Razor Gord’s) the enemies will spawn quite a distance away and then break into a run, charging past any thralls or players who attempt to get in their way. Since the game lacks running attacks, it becomes virtually impossible to combat them save by shooting their legs or catching up with them once they’ve stopped to bash on something. :joy:

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I had this with Nord/Wolfs.

Nords would walk down road, teleport inside half way down road, wolves would ignore anything and run to Gate and attack it trying to get in. XD

Once I opened gate, they ran to door way in courtard. (I had removed stairs) So they were unable to get up to attack point… they sat there and took there beating. XD

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Hey @Larathiel

Thanks for the detailed feedback, it’s been sent to our team so they can look into it.
Apologies for the late response, Thursday was a national Holiday here in Norway.

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