PvP meta = Dev Wipes

Literally unplayable pvp game at this point. No fence stacked base gets dev wiped by more toxic crybabies. Southern aquaduct is a big build to be good pvp base and to accomodate 10+ rotating member tribe. Funcom, what are you guys even doing with this game at this point? Just get rid of pvp servers or dev wipe all of them and set build limiys if you dont like big builds clogging up servers. Also pvpers can catch a ban for attacking someone more than 2 days in a row? Lol what a joke. How are you suppose to raid a bubbled base in a structure where players can turtle up and just hit repair hammer? By the time you whiddle down their recourses you have to leave them alone or else they can report you for harrassement. Lol. The snowflake generation we live in these days…

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a 10 man clan in a base that has been there for how long? How much store do you have?..taking on other clans of similar size and resources or no? Before you start talking about snowflakes, lets look at if you are standing on firm ground yourself. Like it or not, many clans that have sat on servers have been wiping folks as they see fit and they seem to be the largest complainers about getting wiped themselves talking about the time and energy that they spent on the server…and yet it’s the others that are snowflakes? Really? When was the last time you actually fought someone on equal ground? Be honest.

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I start from scratch every server usually when server hoping before this server transfer nonsense and have taken over many servers with only 4-5 people. The clan we are fighting is the clan weve always fought, toxic, racist, immoral people. They happen to start a war on a server we control and magically we get dev wiped. They do anything to win and have a loooong history of cheating and exploiting and funcom gives thrm a free win. GG FC.
Not sure how many wars youve been in this game but in order to frnd off 20+ player clans you need to build defensive bases, and fc doesnt seem to understand their own pvp experience.

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The big problem is Noone knows what’s too big.

It’s like driving down a road in a country you have never been to before and the speed limit sign says don’t drive to fast

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I couldnt agree more with the statements above. I had bunch of server transfer trying to wipe me but when they fail. They hit the report button. I even had a guy trying to extort me. I tried to explain this on helpdesk and they told me to block him…Three weeks later i get ban.

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Ark bois, best dev team, actually listen, huge mod support, have very many ways to play. Listen, let them lose their following for a little give it a year break. They’ll work harder or simply lose money. There’s so many games out there. Valhiem, Scum, Dayz, Icarus, Space engineers, Arma 3 mods, Mount&blade, Ark, Ark 2 is coming out soon. Just give it time. I think for once funcom might be going in the right direction, just give them time to balance it out, test and keep giving them feedback. If they don’t change move to another developer that makes glorious games.

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I agree, unfortunately those other survival games dont have as satisfying of combat as conans, even with its flaws. I was hoping to take a major break until 3.0’s major content update but i cant let these toxic players take over the xbox servers again, by tje time i come back for 3.0 theyll be unbeatable. Funcoms gotta do something better than dev wipe +2 week ban. A 2 week ban for building??? Thats not even cheating or exploiting, wheres the common sense here? This doesnt even stop repeat offenders, all we have to do is create alt accounts , load in our body vaults and get back to it. The dev wipes and bans are just set backs, they dont solve the problems in the slightest. Most everyone i fight is now on alt accounts because theyve been banned so many times. Now i have to appeal my perma ban on my main character, which is only my second infraction ( both of which were not from cheating or exploiting) and never have my main account in another clan EVER and just play on alt accounts. Funcom, fix youre overly strict ToS on building until you can find a solution, of which there are some simple ones.

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When rust came out on ps. I notice funcom actually started releasing stuff lol

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I agree with you. Unfortunately on this forum there are to many ppl that haven’t experienced pvp in this game and will take everything you say and flip it. Good luck with the second ban. Don’t think anyone has gotten their account back after the second ban. Conan 2022 no one is safe, a friend a while back reported a mesh and a few weeks later my friend gets banned… broken system

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To qualify me I’ve only been in a couple and seen a couple of others - but I just wanted to add that I think FC understands it… They just dislike it and wanna change it. ā€œItā€, being the way some people play PvP largess…

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Totally agree, alot of people come here and just take FC side, not sure if they just enjoy being combatative or contrarian but they arent doing the game any favors to the community . It feels like they come on here to assert some sort of moral high ground for some reason but maybe thats just the feeling i get when reading some of these peoples posts. The only things that deserve a clan to be dev wiped and or banned is flat out cheating or exploiting; i.e: duping, server crashing, undermeshing, floating bases. Exessive building when the game allows you to do it with no limit should NOT be the players fault. Attacking someone 2 or more days in a row can result in ToS violation? What?! Go play PvE if youre too sensitive and feel bullied, let PvPers play the game. Whats the tag line for this game? " Build, Survive, Dominate"? Build ( but not too much or get wiped). Survive ( until you get raided really easily because you cant build a decent base anymore because dev wipe). Dominate ( but only for 2 days at a time, make sure to give youre enemies plenty of time to repair their base the next day and farm out those god bubbles so it takes you another 2 days to repeat the same process and let them build a treb tower in front of youre base that you cant blow up because youll be in their event log for 3 days in a row or else…reported, get dev wiped you toxic player, get perma banned. Buy the next DLC though).
Whoever is in charge of the ToS and its enforcement really are going too overboard.

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Same can be said for those that put up defenses significant enough to drain server and client resources. If you are that tied to your loot, play PvE so you aren’t worried about the loss. If you aren’t going to take into account the other players when playing in the sandbox, then yeah you will get kicked out. Officials is where we all should be able to enjoy…not just 1-3 clans that spam build the entire map or crash the game when you walk by a base because it’s just too much. I have been in PVP for over 3 years now on official. There are quite a large number of servers with the same alpha clans in their for the years…YEARS that I have been playing. That’s not healthy for the game, the server resources, or the players (alpha players included).

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I think you’re misunderstanding a lot of us and our posts. A few do take sides but 95% don’t - it’s just the tag-alongs that parrot people they like reading - and they aren’t numerous. But the posts I think you’re talking about (maybe some of mine included?) aren’t taking sides. They may personally dislike the changes as much as anyone else but they have been reading and watching for long enough that they have some basic understanding or guestimate of what FC’s vision for Officials is and what FC is likely to consider or ignore - given that vision or direction.

So for example some person opens an account here and his first post is ā€œWhy no stacking, Give it backā€. A bunch of people who have been paying attention for awhile know for certain that there’s no way in h*ll FC is going to do that, so you see replies from them along the lines of: ā€œThis is the new age, the new rule, live with it!ā€ in varying degrees of directness ofc.

I don’t think it’s a ā€œmoral high groundā€ thing. It’s not for me when I do it. I actually like stacking in moderation (in this example), but it’s just a way of answering the person’s concerns. ā€œIt ain’t happening bro, give it upā€¦ā€

On your specific points:

  1. I didn’t know ā€œAttacking someone 2 or more days in a row can result in ToS violationā€ - that sounds insane! It’s not even that easy to know who you’re attacking in the first place. That is a strange rule!

  2. Banning for anything other than cheating? Yes absolutely, FC has gone power-mad. Using the ban hammer should be a last resort and NEVER applied for things like building violations (the first few times). I think almost everyone agrees with that. I’ve only read one person here that liked it and he was equating them with ā€œcheaters making excusesā€.

  3. Dev wipes (without a ban)? I’m somewhat in favor of. Nincompoops running freeways from one side of the map to the other, WTAF? Building so that I can’t get into a Siptah Vault without figuring out how to climb in the back way up impossible cliffs. Spamming literally hundreds and sometimes even thousands of pillars or foundations across the land? Sure, wipe them… It doesn’t always bother me but I would rather see it gone than stay in place. I’m not about to report anyone for anything but if it gets wiped I’m laughing!

  4. Survive - Until you get easily raided? I dunno. It makes the game different. Can’t really say better or worse - both styles are fun IMO. But to repeat myself: ā€˜This is the new age, the new rule…’

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  1. ā€œWhoever is in charge of the ToS and its enforcement really are going too overboard.ā€ In some areas maybe… like the banning thing… But one thing I can probably say for sure is whoever is writing that document has a very casual style of writing and it makes for a lot of misunderstandings when players don’t stop to consider what he might actually mean. It requires players to think for themselves, consider more than their own perspective, and use common sense - and these are not common traits these days. A lot of people just don’t ever do those things - maybe they don’t know how?
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So i’m pretty new to Conan but the level of Dev intervention was something that shocked me pretty quick. I’m on an official PvP server and I just watched multiple active/big clans get banned the other day and i can’t really understand why. They had large bases yes, but isn’t that kind of the goal? To survive, grow, and become stronger?

While those clans could crush mine if they wanted, I still don’t want to see them kicked off of the game over other people weaponizing the report button. The server already feels less active and exciting because of how many bans just hit us.

And again I’m new, but I really hate the anxiety around building and growing. What is the limit? When will I suddenly get banned etc? And with how much damage bombs do I don’t see how you could survive without a large base. Bombs will rip through layer after layer after layer of T3 foundations like butter. Its weird. Coming from other games the bomb damage on here is out of control, that coupled with the extreme bans around building defensible bases makes for a weird vibe.

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Very well put together post and i agree with you here. I too do not prefer to pvp on heavily overbuilt lag infested servers, infact the server we just got wiped from was horrid. I completely agree with FC intervention with obviously excessive build techniques for landclaim purposes, content / resource blocking those things are just obviously detrimental. Wipe the base and the loot, indont care about any of that really, conan is an easy survival game in comparrison to others in the genre, i can rebuild with a good crew in a day or 2 and be in a good enough spot to compete with otger clans. The ban hammer is whats incredibly unecessary here. The wiping of a clans entire structure setup on the server is a fair punishment imo. However i feel that to build a decent enough base in this game right now, even if you follow the ToS , you are still looking at something that could be dev wiped based on Fc’s subjective view. Its all subjective. If you have a clan of 10 and everyone wants their own base i guess thats too bad, that will be overbuilding and taking too many good spots on the map . And again, the bans solve literally nothing. I can just create another alt account and level to 60 in 2 hours. The cheaters and exploiters are still harrassing us on alt accounts , not that i care we still destroy them, so whats the point? The only annoying part is re learning all the recipes, especially the delve weapons which is RNG based ( yay RNG) so thats all i really care about at this point. Cheaters / exploiters caught with actual proof should be ip/ console banned imo, people with " unacceptable" build capacity should just get the wipe, no ban.

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I can see youre point on the overly built defenses, however when you really start to become more experienced in the pvp realm and go up against high skilled or experienced players the base raiding isnt that difficult really. It was a lot more difficult when gods were disabled, kind of a nightmare, so i agree with you complwtely here. Now that gods really arent hard to farm ( gremlin sigil) base defenses outside of bubbles get obliterated. Now with no fense stacking allowed once youre in a god bubble most bases can be raided pretty easily with a compotent crew. I think the whole raiding and building system just needs a complete overhaul and QoL improvement overall but who knows if thatll happen (3.0?) .
Im really not tied to my loot at all really, im a fighter not a hoarder. My friends are the loot goblins. I log in get a kit and go collect more kits. I really just dont enjoy running around relearning all the recipes over and over, especially the delving recipes, super annoying, but not difficult, id just rather not relearn them.

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Yeah, I agree with almost all of that. I dunno what the heck FC is thinking banning people like it seems they’re doing. There’s too many players who dunno what’s going on and I’m pretty sure the ToS doesn’t display to them as they’re installing the game in such a way where there’s no mistake. And that’s what would be needed to justify banning folks - making sure everyone knows clearly and without exception. I know for example, I would have no idea about any of this if I hadn’t decided (to the detriment of all LOL) to become active here on these forums. But even if they did present it in 72 point font, play audio of it being read aloud, and everything else, banning would STILL be too harsh and over the top for 1st offense building violators. It pretty much flies in the face with everything we’re taught to expect from an online gaming company. And then on top of that from reading here, it seems that Zendesk either isn’t actually staffed by humans or they’re all out back smoking doobies instead of answering people. So if that’s actually the case, it’s kind of doubly fubar…

If it’s really as bad as it seems from reading here, I would expect and even kind of hope that they would begin losing customers. Voting with your wallet works. I dunno if anyone would actually walk or how many would, but it seems to me that FC would totally deserve it if they did (again, if what we read here is any indication of reality). I know for sure if I were banned for any of my current bases I would walk and also contribute as much as I could to their reputation - and as often as possible.

Straighten up and fly right FC @Community !!! :stuck_out_tongue: Like, that’ll help… LOL Crosses Fingers!

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Yah I got suspended. This is how the base look before I took down most of defenses and still got ban. The server was empty people failed to raid so they report. They were transfer crom siptal so they got mad when I hit them n wiped after they hit me three nights in a roll.

I was the guy helping new people to the server.

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Lol i do like youre helio/p8 setup but yea, it was only a matter of time before you got reported. Its a pretty massive build, not that i fault you personally, but from FCs view they definitely dont accept big builds like that. This is why a build cap could help players not be out of ToS guidelines. I know the dreaded Build Cap ooOoooOoo! So scary. Funcom setting a build cap for clans is letting players know what they deem acceptable capacity for server percormance. Some players come on the forums and viamently oppose such a restriction as they feel it impacts how they play, and they shouldnt be punished for other peoples bad building behaviors and that players that build excessively deserve to be punished for doing so. I think what they dont understand is if they are the moral pillars of virtue they claim to be then a build cap will not affect them in ANY way, as they are already doing the ā€œrightā€ thing and following Funcoms ToS to the letter and not even coming close to an excessive amount of building, thus, a build cap of 30k pieces for a clan shouldnt bother them, because they are the arbiters of good building practices and not impacting the health of ghe server.
Put that damn build limit in and stop wiping and banning ayers for nonsense on officual pvp. If people want to fence stack, let them, they will be on a budget and will need to be thoughtful, creative, inventive on how and where pieces should be prioritized. Neccessity is the mother of invention…or something.

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I agree with voting with the wallet. Unfortunately conan is one of a kind. For most of us, this game is the best all around survival game. It has great mechanics but its held back by bugs, stagnant end game, poor community/ dev interaction, ToS enforcement, official server rules, mechanics that allow toxic play / building styles, weapon / armor imbalances ( and lack of true customization), as well as others. I want to quit playing this game, i try all thr time as i am normally a variety gamers. I love Elder Scrolls Online, Destiny 2, etc; but i have no time to play them because i love the fighting / pvp portion of conan , its really satisfying cutting people in half. Everytime i jump onto another game i have an ally somewhere requesting me to come fight for them and i get emrboiled in wars lasting anywehre from a single evening to months. I whole heartedly agree with vote with youre wallet, but the populagion is so low already id figure that woulda lit a fire under Funcoms keester already. Instead it seems like they are trying to sabatoge their own game for some reason? I dont know, i get the feeling the want less people playing so they can focus ln a new ip and generate big revenue from initial release. But hey, thats just my crazy conspiracy theory with no merit or evidence to back it up. Its most likely just overly strict enforcement because they arent use to doing it as much in the past. Idk, 3.0 better be FIRE.

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