Ranger queries from returnee

OK so… Returning player query.

When I rolled my ranger it was before the revamp (IIRC he was third of 3 trial acct characters back in I think 2010 LOL), and I seem to recall running full ranged combos (or am I misremembering that?) and TERRIFIC damage. Rangers were a genuine menace, at the time, or at least they always were to my ToS and Barb when I played them (guess WHY my 3rd toon was a ranger… :smiley: ).

I was away for abt a yr, then came back when Godslayer came out, and Rangers had been revamped. I played him a bit but not as much, after that, and I have now frankly forgotten exactly how the revamp worked, aside from dim memory of the up/dn system, tho IIRC dmg was reduced. Guides have dried up on it, over the yrs.

So, a few queries, as I’ve tested him back out and noticed I suck even worse on him than other toons.

  1. Up/Dn mechanic. . . You pop the combo and then choose an up or dn attk just once, and it finishes the combo, right? Or am I misremembering?
    It seems like that is the case, but it oft does little extra dmg upon completion (tho sometimes it is very notable); might just be my Hit Rating is too low to be reliable even in PVE, so it seems inconsistent.

  2. Does stealth auto-fail after a while? I can’t maintain it, even at full stam, and no run/stealth bar pops up, so it is just someth that fails on non-Sins? On my Sin, I can literally cross all Khitai out of the Gateway all the way into BB cove cave in Paikang w/o breaking stealth even once (yes, I have that little purpose IRL that I’ve repeatedly done it “for fun”: 800 Skulk speed FTW), but Ranger c/n go 3 min w/o stealth fail even w/nothing around him and no yellow bar warning. I had thought toons w/full Stealth/Skulk ability could stay hidden indefinitely, but it seems like Ranger ain’t in that club. Pretty sure I see my run bar when I run, so know where it is, and it is not decreasing in stealth.

  3. Is the DPS of ranger not what it used to be? I recall the combo-based pre-revamp class absolutely wrecking everything. Am I just misremembering, or was it just hard-nerfed… Or am I missing key points because I forgot them?
    It could just be he’s undergeared. I nvr mained ranger, so d/n focus his stuff, and even got him only partly to 80 the real way, but instead pumped him w/free (think from Godslayer hardcopy purchase?) lvls every now and then to get him up to 80, so he may be way behind the curve. I know, I know, shouldn’t have done that, but I was tired as hell of Villas, back then.

No, you do an up and or down attack first to get a buff (top of your screen) and then use one of the “combo” attacks. Each attack lists what it does additionally depending on the buffs you have running.

Rangers still deal decent damage but the revamp took out all the fun. It’s just incredibly boring to play these days. All you do is up down, Bleeding Puncture (the AA version) and then up down Penetrating Shot. And maybe a Quick Shot in between. Debuffing isn’t necessary most of the time because other classes do it much faster and more often.

It might be different with the t5 rune but no idea about that.

About the stealth stuff no idea either. Shouldn’t be any different from the other classes. Maybe just bad luck

TY!

I had totally thought it was U/D after the Combo. LOL. 12 yrs away will do that to ya.

It’s a shame how it plays now. I do remember how much less fun it was after they revamped the class.

Ranger is still mainly single target DPS, yah? I recall the melee side was meh, tho Shield Bash is useful. A few instances and such I am skipping as did the math on those having way too many adds.

I’m gonna wait to see if anyone chimes in on the stealth aspect, as it is annoying as hell. I had remembered it as any of the rogue classes staying in stealth indefinitely unless revealed once they hit a certain lvl, but my Ranger gets popped from stealth constantly w/nothing around.

I have to check stealth on my barb, now that I think abt it. . . Haven’t been playing him, despite him being my fave back in the day; Sin became the fave once started playing her.

I will let this sit for any possible stealth advice, but set your reply as the solution before the thread ages out. Thx again!

So..

After several reloads, somehow my ranger’s stealth is now working properly, and with no apparent reason for the previous issue?!? I had restarted the game many times over multiple days w/the same results wherever I went, but the last 2 days, stealth has held unless a legitimate reveal by a creature occurred, or I fell enough to break stealth. Maybe there was some sort of file or server bug, but it does seem like Ranger stealth is working (tho, oddly, my Sin’s stealth nvr had an issue during this same time).

Listing Force’s reply as solution.

Thanks!