Saga server was alot of fun. I loved seeing players I haven’t seen in years return to game and leading some fun raids. I loved seeing all the dungeon runs and raids at all levels before they added RF , which of course pretty much killed that.
As for people complaining they couldn’t complete their quest look to yourselves. I saw so many vets and entire guilds trying to help people complete those quests.
I watched the same people complaining in global daily, first about lack of power levels, then when they got pl to 80 lack of RF, then proudly proclaim how they hate elitist prig guilds and won’t bother to join so and sos raids that were forming. While waiting for RF to come to Saga they snarked in global how they couldn’t be bothered to come to t1 t2 t3 raids or 6mans since raid finder was coming. Perhaps if they had done any of those they might have learned mechanics of their class and been more successful at completing their quest later in their “own” raids.
Instead they went on to spend the last two weeks of Saga complaining they will never get their quest done because of elitist prigs and non-helpful vets.
There was an abundance of help on Saga for the willing. There were entire raids of vets clearing raids to needed bosses; dropping raid and then bringing in people who weren’t in guild ,people they had just met , random people from global who had been looking to finish quest , to fill their slots. Leaving just the required number of vets to ensure boss was taken down.
In many of these raids the bosses were downed by 13-15 who knew mechanics or were willing to listen and learn, while the others were carried.
Many of these raids took hours at final boss bc so many were carried. I never saw anyone singled out or kicked even though it was quite clear they had never done the actual raid mechanics just rf.
I watched people being helped actually go afk in these raids making pulls take a long time. I listened to raid leaders patiently explain mechanics to “new” players only to be roundly ignored when fight started, and still no one was kicked and people got carried to getting their quests done.
What I also saw in the same raids were people who had never done the actual raids listen and learn and get really excited about being able to learn the fights and down a “real raid”.
I want to give a shout out to all the players on Saga that had never done " real" raids, were new players, or vets gone so long everything was new again. So many of you asked questions, asked about builds asked about mechanics and every one of you I met gave everything your best shot. The comedies of error in some of those Khitai 6mans rank as some of my best Aoc moments. It was a pleasure raidng with you from some very bad but fun as hell and funny T2s to watching you down all your Saga bosses. You guys brought a lot of fun back that’s been missing for me, for a many years.
Minus the addition of RF I think Saga was a good thing for many people.