If you understand then you wouldn’t be mentioning “spamming” (it’s not). What is most important to people they’ll talk about it. Like not being able to play the game consistently due to those problems.
Do you think if everyone shuts up it will suddenly be fixed? I think we both know the answer to that.
Years of thralls falling through foundations. 8 months of players falling through foundations. 4 months of the worst of it. That’s pretty important.
I can list the timeframes of a few other hugely impacting issues too. It’s like a snowball running downhill.
Concern for a new system that impacts current systems with a base that is barely hanging on is alarming and should be talked about.
not but when peopel every day say the same words on every post they can find on the forum they ned to fix that is spamming im not aginst people texting things need to be fixed not at all all im saying is the same few people constantly doing this in hope things got fix as the minut they are texting and i dont want to mention names into it, as sayed i think too funcom ned to step up with the fixing i know one on the discord we was textint about it and i told him its not helping to spawm it but he refuse and what to keep doing it until they have fixed it and i see the person in the forum constanly doing it so year i call it spawmming when foncome clearly have sayd they trying to fix it.
The general hope is that bugs get fixed by everyone, as you’ve mentioned, including you. But your assessment of the “few” that comment about it as frequently as possible is a symptom of the sentiment of the game dude. Most of those who are commenting on it are well respected here and for good reason. They’re not talking out their butts.
The amount of players who come to the forums is extremely small. There are regulars here, including myself, that read and comment frequently. So ya, you’re going to see a lot of the same people, topics and opinions being brought up. But expanding beyond, on social media, it’s very much the same there and they’re not the same people.
As for that discord, it’s a fan run space, the opinions of the moderators are not the opinions of staff.
Anyway, you’re not going to be able to stop it - especially on such premises as “they said they’re fixing it”. Those who are concerned about such bugs have the grounds to keep mentioning it as long as it remains. If and until it is addressed, you’re going to have to live with seeing “spamming”. I realize you want your post to be positive and remain on topic but topics also evolve. Attempting to line us all up and evoking false positivity when the situation is not so, ain’t gonna happen. It smacks of silencing instead.
that i will have to happend at all i dont want false positivite and BTW i hope to the gonna fix the problems their have being really i hope it so much but no matter how people will see it their will allways be bugs no one can clear a hole game for bugs its never happend and never will its prover over time agian and agian. but yeah i hope its gonna be fixed
It’s good that you’re taking the good with the bad - you should take the hits of bad rolling though; it’s part of discussion
As I said in another thread, the settlement system is progress and meeting expectations. The implementation, how it affects playstyles and modes is what concerns me.
I can’t help but feel apprehensive and worried about what it means and that’s really an extension of the concerns being “spammed”. I wish I knew what the goal is and what are the true priorities so I can manage my expectations. Especially being a player that has been extremely negatively impacted by lack of action for some issues and rendered the game unplayable in the mode I prefer.
It’s been an oft repeated point that not everything can be fixed. You’re right and I agree. All live service games suffer from similar problems. Just remember here that none of the players with the concerns they mention are rooting for destruction of the game; it is quite the opposite.
the best thing will be you can toggle settlement on so people can play with it as they like and toggle it off if people dont want it on servers or if they dont want to play with it. so people can choose how they want to play. i will have no agianst if they made toggle to the settlement so you can choose. like you could with the old purge system on and off
Not that I disagree with the actual points you are making (as you know I’m in favour of the upcoming changes - if concerned about their potential impacts), but just to add a bit more information - it actually has been possible with mods to change crafter appearances/clothing for a while now. Fashionist definitely (and I believe others like IQOL and maybe Tot) could enable these changes, and have them remain persistent through server resets etc. (Clothes for crafters had become really easy recently, as Fashionist added a set of boxes within the crafting bench screens that clothes could simply be dragged to to ‘equip’ to the thrall on the bench - it didn’t use up the items, they went straight back to inventory, but the appearance then remained a part of the crafter, even if moved to other benches.)
So, long story short, I don’t think the ‘living crafters’ aspect was required in order to have the ‘change appearance’ aspect, it seems it was possible to do other ways. But I for one do like the added life that thralls moving around brings to a base.
but they had to do something if it was posiible to make crafetr thralls to make so they can have cloth to them its only warriors and archers and perfermors their can have it on so they need to make a chnage to them by making some of the coding frome the 3 types into the crafter thralls so we can dress them up so what @Oduda is complete true about
I’ve never been able to keep a cat in anywhere. They inevitable wander out side, same with bunnies. I have no idea how to keep them in.
Ya patrons end up every where, even floating in mid air. The only reason I haven’t removed the bar is because it’s amusing.
I have 0 reason to believe they will stay penned up.
I think that is more a PVP thing. You’d be surprise how may PVE builds are wide open for tourists. The bigger they are the more they want to show off all those bazaar purchases.
Patrons are stuck out side because I have closed doors.
“Should” is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.
I have a few times already. But I don’t recall anyone asking for thralls to be able to move about at their leisure.
I suggested a fisher thrall and fishing doc ages ago. But that was just a bench and artisan like any other. Not for them to wander up and down the beach.
And if you think that is all I have been on about you haven’t been reading what I have been posting.
Please link me to where anyone has asked for sims the Conan version.
I know when they did but do you?
PVP rules, not handing my opponent an advantage.
Yes, there is a mod for that.
And I pointed out I don’t have to eat a ghost pepper chip to know it’s going to be hot.
If it’s different people posting about the same issue, it’s not spam. It’s proof of how wide spread the issue is.
If some one says they are going to fix something for a year and doesn’t, I don’t figure they can or may not even intend to.
Google Placation.
When funcom said they were going to set thralls up like the bartender, set them in world and dress them, I was cool with it, I like uniforms. But after my experience with cats, bunnys, and bar patrons I cringed when they said wandering artisans. I don’t see players not losing artisans to encounters with hostiles out side the keep.
And you know they are going to have to go in and rewrite the ToC to accommodate this change. I mean they jumped right in there and changed that bridge rule when they introed the treasures you couldn’t swim with making bridges practically mandatory, right?
I’m sorry but I don’t see this being anything but a disaster.
No. As I explained - existing mods prove that dressing crafter thralls and even fully changing their appearance is already completely possible with crafters as items, rather than placed in the world. It is simply not correct that crafters had to become placeable thralls in order for their clothes to be changed. It was not required, because it has already been done for several years without needing to making them follower type thralls.
However - this does not mean I don’t like the idea of what they are going to do (I do like it - though I have some concenrs about what impacts it might have). It is just an attempot to add information to the discussion, becuse building arguments on incorrect information means they are likely to collapse further on in the process.
we dont know how their coding to the game is so yeah maybe your right maybe your wrong its only funcom their know the the coding on the system to them is on the ingine.
No. You are not paying attention. I am not claiming that ‘I think’ they don’t need to make them followers in order to change their clothes. I am saying ‘it is a fact’.
These screenshots are from before Age of Sorcery - so this has been possible for at least two years -
It is not a matter of having to know the coding. It is a fact that outfits could be changed using mods - therefore it is a fact that Funcom could have chosen to add function to change crafters’ clothes without having to make them followers.
As I have said - I like the direction they are taking here. But that does not mean that I think it is a good thing for support for that idea to be based on false information.
the mod you using. if funcom not improve what we can do with thralls then they mods creators cannot improve their mods with better and new stuff, i see what you texting but you ned to se the bigger picture of the thing, mods cannot be better with out funcome give them acces to it and give the acces to it they need to put it into the game before they can and if you dont want the to walk araound lock them up in a small room
you say this is good for crafters, yet you have not tried it ? i suppose you got support to your claim this has been asked by a people? bring me links , for all to see, just to see what exactly has been requested. , do you happen to have links to support your claim? yes ? no? or is it another “under your impression” ? people has asked for patrols, for allowing to change thrall clothing, for more emotes, to add variaety , no one has asked for simss the barbarian edition.
they have said countles of times, they will improve communication, they said they are “lookng” into the building pieces problem (people falling ) months and months ago, and they have not fixed it yet, if i start to point out broken promises thjis post will be very long.
they saying it and they doing it, is not the same,
hahaha unbelievable… so hopw much is ok to wait? a year? 2 years? 3 yuears? sorry i lost mine, same as many others.
this…
but hey you might see your carpenter go take a shit, (in the case he mades it. and dont get stuck in a door… or fall trhu foudnations, or get eaten by a hyena pack, LOL)
you are not helping by constantly defending things that cant and should not be defended. are you just on the mood of being contrary to what most people are complaining about ?
we cause we believe it is important, and if not brought up we feel we might live with those bugs forverver ,?
this…
they need to start fixing the game. work on the most urgent bugs, that has been reported for up to a year if not more., ,. building on a flawed follower system is a recipe for dissaster. no one asked for that kind of “settlement” i want to have control over what my thralls do and do not.
FFS - try to read. Yes. this was done using a mod. Oduda originally suggested that she didn’t think there was a way to change clothes on crafters without having to turn them into followers - she specifically pointed out that she didn’t think there was a mod that did it, and asked to be corrected if her information was wrong.
There is a mod that does this, so I did as she asked and corrected the incorrect information.
At no point have I said they should not do this. At no point have I said that it shouldn’t be added to the base game. I have said repeatedly that I like the new direction they are going.
You keep disagreeing and saying that changing crafters’ clothes requires them to be placed as followers. I have shown you that is not true.
Nowhere have I ever claimed that modders can do this without Funcom. Without the base game there are no mods. Improvements to the base game allow more elements for modders to adjust. Of course they do. No one has ever claimed differently.
Read what I have posted and say where I have ever said I didn’t want them to walk around? I have never said that. In every post I have said that I do want that. In every post I have made clear that I am talking about what ‘can’ be done - specifically in answer to a question raised by Oduda.
I would be happy with this change If people was not able to kill my thralls in pve using spawn bug or zath orb + ilusion magic. But now Funcom will give them my crafter thralls to be killable in easier ways.
yes its a part of the settlement system yo cannot have settlement system where thralls is your r people to just stand still and do nothingat all so YES and they have talked before where they want o have trhalls to farm for you near your base that means they need to learn to walk around.
as they said on the stream the settlement is only in your base not out side of your base, conan is still the same just with a few extra qualety of life things people ahve asked for, as i mention futher up if they made a tuggle system like they did with the old purge system will be a much better thing to have
if yuo dont belive them that is your problem not mine, im just saying what they said on the stream around the fixing
as said frome their stream they trying to get if fixed and second year if you dont have fence and agte or a wall to keep them in yearh they gonna die to wild animales thats why we have gaurds to keep them safe, but you can allso do the easy way dont play with thralls then.
im defending them on this topic becuse we have asked for this in so long and i dont want it to be canceled becuse of you people hate the idea of people having a good time with the new stuff for thralls, allso this is huge for thralls we finaly can have more life in our base and not seing some kinda doll just stand their and watch
we have to see how that test servers is and allso when it come out to the main servers
the problem is if they only focus on fixing the game constaly their will be no content nothing at all becuse their will allways be bugs no matter how muchyou want to admit it or not, and allso this is just a tate of what we are geting maybe they can still change a lot over time.
