Nope, I’m not derailing anything. Just commenting, participating in discussions. Speaking my mind. Providing my feedback.
Not true, I have made suggestions, my comments are as valid as anyone else’s comments. You may not agree or like them but they are legitimate suggestions for the next age.
I really do want Age of Pre-Sorcery. I want the game to go back to not having any of the updates from Sorcery and onward. I want Age of Old School Conan Exiles. I just want the Age of Fun to make a return. I simply want the same game that I enjoyed for years, the game I bought during Early Access and supported. It’s as valid as any of the other suggestions that have been made - and some would argue it’s MORE valid because it would bring us back to a time when the game was simply better - and when it did not have any of these unnecessary microtransactions and other marketing “features.”
yeah man, it’s fine for you to have an opinion. it’s just that, an opinion. it’s as valid as anyone else’s. what i have really taken exception to is you have often discounted the “no rollback” dissenters as being wrong. not a person with an opinion that is different than yours, but actually objectively wrong. just as your opinion is as valid as anyone else’s, the rest of our opinions are as valid as yours.
i do thank you for making a comment that is an expression of civil disagreement. i think that’s how people should express their opinions. there is enough of “i’m right, you’re wrong, the other side is evil” going on in the world, and it sucks. everything ain’t for everybody, and that’s ok.
i still believe that what you want is unrealistic from funcom’s perspective. they can barely maintain the live branch of the game. i have no faith they could maintain a “classic” branch in addition.
my own perspective is different than yours tho too. i am not an oldhead who’s been around since beta. i didn’t start playing until age of sorcery chapter 2. i personally think the game was more fun at the end of the age of sorcery, and i think most of the age of war was a dud. but i figure it’s a live service game, funcom devs get to decide what direction it goes in, and if i find myself genuinely not liking the game, i will just quit playing and modding it.
Okay let’s be silly here for a moment and plug in some numbers based on that last statement. So you say this will bring back THOUSANDS of disaffected players to this pre sorcery version. So if there are thousands of the them let’s be conservative and said 2k the minimum to qualify as thousands. There are 24 hours in a day and 30 days in a month so 720 hours total. Now our 2 thousand players are absolutely rabid for this pre sorcery version and they don’t sleep and always want to play it. That means at 40 players per official pre-sorcery server they would need to maintain 50 servers for 36,000 hours a month to accommodate those players all while funcom/tencent don’t earn a so much as a dime for any of them.
Even if all those servers were free to maintain and they got an unpaid intern to set them up one afternoon. That means that intern won’t be available to deliver coffee to a dev who’s working on the version of the game that i care about. This is intolerable to me. I don’t want even one second of effort to go towards your vision Macdallan.
Let’s not forget this hypothetical is the absolute best case scenario based on your own numbers of thousands of players with absolutely no overhead at all.
Now let’s be a little more realistic, I don’t believe there are thousands of players foaming at the mouth for a pre-sorcery version of the game. I don’t think you’d even get enough to fill one official server. The cost to maintain that server and whichever person they are paying to admin for that server would mean you’d have to divert money (however little) with no return on investment. This stagnant version of the game will just sit on a server with the few who want to play there costing money to maintain. No updates, no dlc’s, no bazaar which means no way to make money off of them.
Tencent: Oh please take my money I don’t need it.
We’ve had this pointless debate multiple times by now Macdallan. Still I will keep my word to you that every time I see you post about this I will raise my voice against this idea.
Crom blast it. I just want this thread to be with people speculating on the next Age, and there’s this luddite who wants to go pre-Sorcery with everything
Definitely NOT ALL , sorcerry as such was OK , brought a lot of new mechanics and magic.
Yes the implementation wasn’t quite right, it brought a lot of new bugs and took a while to be balanced but overall it was a step in the right direction.
Conan wasn’t bad before and of course it was less buggy but I doubt it would have kept the current playerbase if FC hadn’t added some content to the game for a few years.
How would you have imagined that ? (your rollback)
New “retro” servers ?
Extra expense for something that only a minority would try and probably would soon be almost empty.
if we should talk - hypothetically - about a rollback I would put it before AoW because this " age " didn’t bring much to the game, but we have not very good rebalance of the combat system and constant nerfs of thralls
plus of course tons of new unfixed bugs that are not only annoying but often make regular gameplay impossible
How is that any different then any other update to date? You have no long term memory do you?
No, but you will be missed. I doubt seriously it would bring back enough to fill a server. Even if you had all your alts on it. {it’s a running gag, google it}.
So how do you say you have no clue how things work with out saying it
That usually has little to nothing to do with the actual thread. Or, derailing it to your pet peeve. And yes, I would know all about that.
Interesting claim for some one that doesn’t know what a fact is. You tend to invalidate your own comments and don’t realize it.
No you don’t. If you did you’d be playing it now, nothing is stopping it but you.
You keep saying that and I quit playing then because it was boring, stagnant, and going no place. Where was this stuff funcom kept alluding to but never actually working on.
That “some” being all of 5 people. And I don’t see 4 of them arguing here.
I’m sorry dude, but when you post stuff like that you just prove you have no clue how things work. It have been explained to you by people much smarter then myself and you still don’t get it.
The way it reads to me there will likely be no next age. I think what we are going to see is rolling events. Right now it’s head hunters, then back to the sacred hunt or something similar. But it seems the chapters are over with.
Now I’m for the battle pass, not with all the free stuff, but with the challenges. I’m goal oriented so i like having daily challenges, means I will be playing daily. Even if it only pays out crom for the bazaar I refuse to shop at. It’s what I’d like to see for everyone even though I wont use the croms. You buy the pass which only gives you the challenges to get the croms. Which you can use to buy the next battle pass, and more.
But I was never a fan of the massive changes to the game we got with the new ages.
I’m not active at all right now. I have a few dungeons to do for the journey but with the way things are right now you never know when
Yes, you are. Most of the times you posted this innocent opinion of yours have been on discussions that are unrelated to it. And since there are good reasons to disagree with your opinion, people post those disagreements, and the discussion changes from whatever it was about. That’s what “derailing a discussion means”, when you intentionally change the topic of discussion.
And you’ve succeeded again, because everyone is replying to you rather than having the discussion they were having before.
back to the topic at hand, i am still pulling for age of religion. i think that’s what jheb sag event was hinting towards before the schedule got rightfully slowed down. i can guess that some of the event mechanics we have seen before will be showing up, but with different god themes.
age of civilization that has been brought up, with revamping of followers and benches and the ‘feel-alive-making’ of bases is interesting too.
The next age… seriously trying to answer this question. At this point, it really feels like Conan Exiles needs a thorough, top to bottom comprehensive tune up and balancing. I mean, for several years now, new systems have been added and old systems have been adjusted back and forth. And there seems to be older systems that don’t comport well with new systems – thus, require an overhaul. Tacking on a new age won’t fix that. It really feels like too many subsystems are competing or conflicting with one another instead of a cohesive, unified game. Does anyone else feel like this or is this just me?
I often ignore the religion system because the religious items, whether food, armor, or weapons, all feel inferior or at least on par with anything else in the game and god tokens are useless in the mode I play (2 person PVE server). I’d love to have a religion overhaul with meaningful, FUN gameplay.
As for civilization, I’d love more farming stuff (give me chickens for ages while you’re at it), would love more useful alchemical potions, more meaningful gameplay with both food and drinks, more immersive interactions with bases in general.
However, as @Bodin mentioned above, I’m concerned how this would all play out without some overhauling of what we have. Pets saw some nerfs due to a rebalance that still hasn’t happened. Loot, good loot especially, is plentiful so I don’t even need to make padding anymore, tools don’t benefit from T4 crafters, some attributes still don’t have corrupted options and sorcery has seen a lot of indirect nerfs through the rework of the combat and stamina system, etc, etc. And, to be quite frank, I’m very wary of overhauls especially after the combat and inventory overhauls that have been less than appealing or functional.
Honestly, this one thinks Religion overhaul can easily be folded into Civilization.
Religion being one of the cornerstones that many Hyborian civilizations are built upon. What is Stygia without Set? How would Aquilon develop and govern without Mitra? The Lemurians of the Exiled Lands would be long extinct without Dagon.
We already have religion ground down to near irrelevance. So the signs of future tinkering are there.
But religion is only one pillar. There is no reason it must be either or. Considering chapters are now going to be Half a year, and there will be four chapters per Age, two years is a fairly long period to deal with both a settlement and follower interface as well as do something with the Altars.
thing is, you always quote the Steam charts in order to make your opinion anything more than that, but you seem to forget, or simply don’t know, that these charts are not polls on specific issues…they are an expression of thousands of different opinions, not all of them align with your opinion. In fact, you just claim they all align with yours, without giving any valid reason why they should. What it is, is speculation…as is your claim that a reroll “will bring back thousands”. How you can make such a claim is truly beyond me and many other here apparently…the fact that most here disagree with you should give you pause, but again, it doesn’t.
If you need to get that explained to you, AGAIN and AGAIN, you won’t understand it now either, which is truly sad…for you.
*edit: Since I got now interested in the whole Steam Charts “analysis” you pretend to do to form your opinion, I did one too and fisrt thing that came to mind, is…
the data doesn’t even support your claim! If anything, the data suggests, that AGE OF WAR was the least popular. It barely made anybody come back. AGE OF SORCERY almost attrackted as many players as Siptah and even had higher retaention rate than Siptah AND the original release in May 2018. That’s what I would call a success for a (at that point) 4 year old game.
No, I do not “always quote” the Steam charts. Look through my posts on these forums. I rarely mention them and that, my friend, is a fact.
Do you really think I don’t know that the CHARTS on the Steam DB (or Steam Charts website) aren’t POLLS? Come on, buddy… get real.
The chart I linked is a concurrent player count chart. All it shows are the PEAK player counts over a period of time. It clearly shows the counts have been down lately and have been trending downward for a while. The cause is obvious - the poor quality of the “Age of X” updates, the bad changes such as the UI overhaul, the new and unresolved bugs introduced in recent updates, the over simplification of certain aspects of the game, and very likely the changes to monetization.
I didn’t pretend to do any analysis. I had a look at the chart, the numbers paint a clear picture. Anyone can see that.
Can you not clearly see the recent decline in concurrent peak player counts on the charts? Do you not understand why the numbers are dropping? Have you not seen people complaining about the updates? Do you really think that reverting the disastrous updates from the past few years will not bring anyone back? I think it would. See, I know people that would play again if they rolled it all back. Some people on these forums have said they would, and some people on the Steam forums have said they would, and I absolutely would. It’s not 30,000 people, but I guarantee there are a few thousand folks like me out there who would play on a CE Legacy server.
p.s. You shouldn’t use the Steam Charts website, the SteamDB site is more accurate and has better data.
