The return on investment is not there

Great sales =/= great games.

Let’s play a little game here. Everyone who has the Steam version of Conan Exiles I want you to look at the top 10… no… lets do top 25 best selling games on Steam (can even substitute top 25 most played if you wish). Add up all the total hours you’ve spent playing those games (if you don’t have the game then it would be 0). Now compare it to Conan Exiles.

Also if you’re on Playstation/Xbox and have a way of looking up similar stats for your platform feel free to do you own version there.

Many here like to talk about how this game or that game is better. But they aren’t playing that game.

As far as games being better in sales and having more players. If I wanted to play those sorts of games, I’d be playing those games. If Funcom went the route of being like the top 3 games on Steam for example, I’d probably uninstall.

The next Conan game will likely be a coop or singleplayer game. The 20-40 player survival genre’s fad faded awhile ago. Minecraft and Terraria have the market share, there’s no reason people are going to budge form it. Conan IP or not.

Now you are hurting me. We are not the same group of players. We Conan players buy Minecraft and Terraria to our kids :joy: I mean it’s hard to compete with the best, but Funcom has it’s niche and they know it, this is why they are launching Dune not something else. And Dune is most popular among those who saw 1984 movie with MacLahlan, so again main target are players 40+

But yes it’s unlikely that they are going to launch another MMO, this is why it’s going to be another survival or single player (yuck, I can’t play single player games anymore).
The newest survival games out there are better than Conan when it comes to graphics, building, or you can even dig in ground and change the landscape - but they are not Conan, they don’t have that feeling. Conan universe is brutal, realistic, it has nudity… It stands out from that crowd of D&D clones. It will always find it’s place. But it has to be modern game and have some basic things like bloody admin tools (Pippi) on the launch…

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sd/funny part is, it underperforms now more than ever… sometimes they even release “patches” with old bugs… its like there is no quality control over whats released.

I think funcom knows by now their target, thus the items on the bazaar are elaborated for this particular target.

ewww… i would never put these two on the scale… two completely different targets.

Like, my daughter (8) felt overwhelmed with conan even when she LOVES to build in minecraft, and by no means I plan on downgrading my “thing”

but this is only natural… time passes by, technology evolves… but keep in mind, that tech aside, if enough ppl find that the concept is poor, success is not guaranteed.

on a side note: i dont mind the way conan looks cause tbh, u spend much time running/riding in the desert… if anything, decoration details, fire, water and such… and even then, you realize that the sand storm has one of the most unique graphic effects out there… ofc it has room for improvement but hey… they game is quite old already.

on a second side note: some other company i dont want to mention here but the name starts with “wild” and finishes with “card”… is pushing a “brand new” ASA at full price, just because its on UE5… content wise its the s.a.m.e o.l.d b.s… if funcom decided to go that route, id pretty much quit the game, no doubts about it… i would stay away for 3… 4 years? before even thinking on coming back.

ARK is a great example, if they just ripped off all these cool things from ARK and brought it over to Conan we would have had a perfection.
Guard dogs detecting enemy players in nearby area or even crocodiles that can swim - can you even imagine having that in Conan! :joy:

If Funcom buffed Conan to UE 5 and gave it total graphics overhaul (no blurred pixels when you look at your feet in FP mode) + made it compatible with old version so I can continue playing with friends who use old client - I’d buy it.

Conan is getting old, SWTOR is on it’s last legs, just release Dune already :joy:

interestingly enough… ark n conan are my top 2 games and i always compare one game to another

cant even believe they wont swim in conan

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It is indeed possible that this is Funcom’s current thinking. I don’t hope so but if that’s the case then I’m pretty sure they’re wrong because this game still has a large player base (many early access players are still there). This game has huge potential but Funcom forgot that it’s an exploration and survival game; it’s not a cosmetics game (although that’s important for RP players). For my part, this game needs a new map comparable to the lands of exile (Siptah being a failed map). I hope that the Funcom teams will react because the game is not evolving in the right direction (the new purge system is completely failed) and a lot of players will leave (players who will not go to Dune if like me they prefer survival games in medieval fantasy or Sword & Sorcery universes)

Yes I agree,
but what I meant in my previous post is:

  1. Conan Exiles was designed and planned to be a good/average game that sells 500k copies throughout the year - this was Funcom’s target.

  2. They have sold 500k copies within first month… So they have reached their target 12x quicker.

  3. Now someone who pulls the strings should have noticed that they accidently created the golden goose, while making a game that was supposed to be average title.

  4. Instead of developing the core game further and conquering the survival games market they have left unfinished map as it was, they have totally ignored bugs that were in the game etc. Someone had decided to cash a little bit more on Conan’s unexpected popularity by making these DLCs and secondary map hidden behind a paywall that was a total disaster.

It seems Funcom is run by an accountant not a gamer :man_shrugging:
If they chose to follow the path of Bioware or Frontier Developments and ignore their fanbase/customers we will see where this is going to lead them in the end…

For the amount of money Conan had made there is absolutely no reason for it to still feel like a beta stage game after 5 years, where devs don’t know how to set things up.

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Nobody is forcing you to buy anything from the bazaar. Not their problem if you can’t control your addiction it is yours.

Yeah, that’s what happened when Tencent bought the company. It’s the same story we’ve seen happen over the decades - big companies buy game studios that have made great games but crappy profits, and turn the scenario upside down to make crappy games and great profits. It’s a modern-day miracle that that actually works.

You know how AAA game publishers spend many times more money in marketing and advertising their games than developing the games? That’s how they maximize their profits. And considering how many people still buy the next buggy crapfest from the same studio after being disappointed repeatedly, that business model seems to work.

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no one talks about addiction, it’s completely off topic. The subject is that Funcom is letting a game die which still has a lot of future. Some players, like me, make some purchases not out of addiction but because the content was nice and thinking that perhaps this would encourage Funcom to continue investing in its game. It is clear that no. So no problems, for my part there will be no more purchases and probably I won’t end up migrating to another game (Return to Moria seems very nice).

I agree Funcom needs to wake up and work on the many bugs. But if we want the game to survive, Funcom must also review its roadmap.
the idea of ​​"Ages" was good but like everything Funcom does lately it’s always both unfinished and buggy. Besides, why doesn’t magic have new spells with Age of War, it’s stupid not to continue developing magic. Finally, new game mechanics are good, but what’s the point when 90% of players have already explored almost 100% of the maps? A new map should also be part of the roadmap.

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Someone up there said, to hell with Conan, we are going to give them just a little bit of attention and put all the workforce into Dune.
Conan has made it’s money now they need new product to make more money.

But the accountant who runs that company does not take into account :joy: that it is us who are going to be buying Dune. If you get bad customer service in a store, you don’t buy at that store again.

As for the roadmap, they had a great game and all we needed was to make it better, but they took 180’ turn and dumbed down the game and made it so easy it has become boring.

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Swimming crocodiles is definitely doable - check out DarthPhysicists Isle of Men mod - crocs swim after you in that (as do other NPCs)

Personally I don’t like the Dune universe, and I don’t see the point of a survival game in futuristic universes. Funcom’s future Dune game is clearly not for me, but that doesn’t mean that it won’t appeal to other players (maybe it will be a great success). But what shows that the investors are idiots is that it is better to have two games that make money than just one game. And I even have the impression that the investors of Funcom are dishonest with the players from Conan Exiles because I wonder if the money earned from the bazaar doesn’t go to Dune rather than Conan (well, I shouldn’t ask the question because it’s so obvious :frowning_with_open_mouth:). In short, it is unlikely that I will trust Funcom again in the future (a game producer who does not finish his games and who does not support them…)

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man i hope you are right (on the conan exiles 2 point)

I wont buy it that’s for sure :joy:
I think i‘ll never ever touch anything made by them.

CE could have been a huge success, the potential was there. But they just didn’t know what to do with it.
What a shame.

I just hope the players won’t forget that and learn a lesson.

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