The hate of Tencent and/or EPIC comes from their store and that EPIC buys “games” to be exclusive in the epic store…
Steam fanbois in a nutshell 
Funny thing: I am so old, that I know how BIG the outcry was when Steam came. Now its the same with Epic store 
PS.: I am also not a big fan of Tencent… But they are the same like any other AAA publisher…
As a consumer, I hate it when vendors actively prevent developers from selling on other platforms, effectively making me choose between using their platform, or not buying the product (it usually comes down to the latter).
In my case it’s not really about being a “steam fanboi” - I have accounts with several other vendors too, though Steam and GoG are my main ones for sure.
I don’t mind developers choosing to stick with one platform for whatever reason, be it Steam or Epic or something else, that’s certainly their choice. It’s the artificial, externally imposed exclusivity deals I am against no matter who from, though Epic are indeed notorious for it.
So like Rockstar Games? Ubisoft? Heck even GoG has an installer nowadays…
And still this games get bought and played on PC. I have the Epic Launcher for the Devkit anyway
I see that from a Developer viewpoint.
Epic gives you money to sell your game in their store - why not.
Epic only wants 15%, where as everyone else wants 30% when you are in that store - more money for the devs.
And thats the reason many Devs do it. They dont get money from crying fanbois who probably wont buy the game anyway.
But the get money from Epic and get more revenue when selling there.
And lets be real: At the end of the day, it is all about money, as most people dont work for free.
Funcom could make the game so much better, if they had more money to hire more people for testing, developing and maybe even server admins!!
You do not need the DLC to see it in game online. The only thing buying DLC does is allow you to craft it. You, as a person who did not buy it, can still place it, repair the building pieces, even repair armor and weapons with repair kits. The only “wall” is not being able to craft it. So i don;t think you understand why. It was a way to generate revenue without ■■■■■■■■ over the players by requiring the buys.
In my personal opinion, if you added a note to this post to “apply quotation marks to ‘crying fanbois’ because it was meant to be from a non-feeling dev’s standpoint” this would preserve the context, and possibly ameliorate any malperceptions. My belief is your written language might not have included this nuance without my pointing it out. As I read your posts regularly, I took this in the most benign way possible.
Speak for yourself, buddy. My hate of Tencent comes from what they’re doing in China and Hong Kong. They’re not just a video game publisher, you know.
Funny thing, I’m also that old, but it seems that age taught us different lessons. I wish one of yours had been how to participate in a civil discussion without resorting to name-calling.
Please forgive my departure into interpersonal affairs, my hope is that you’re hyperbolizing, because I don’t think hate is something you often express. The other side of the coin is that our awesome and magnificent game is important enough for a giant to want to possess. What we must remember is that Funcom is supported by Titans who got us here, and will keep us on course. This frees the rest of us, to be a democratizing force for good: a voice within Tencent that says we are barbarians, and our roar cannot be silenced.
The thing is, go to Reddit… So many are crying there, because “boohoo China bad” or “boohoo Tencent” bad, without knowing that:
.Tencent holds 29% of Funcom since last year
.The game runs on UE, which is made from EPIC where Tencent is a big share holder
.Tencent isnt stupid and know exactly that western games are different than asian games
Tencent owns LoL and also majority of Path of Exiles dev and this game are still designed for western markets.
I see and hope it like Jens here: Reddit - Dive into anything
If you write there, saying that you also see it positive, you get downvoted into oblivion… So this are not Fanbois? What then? Suddenly political activists?
So now it turns political? Norway wants to make new Oil borings… Probably the country you live in, also has connections to china.
Most of your electronic devices are from… China
Also when Tencent is so bad, why do you still play the game? They owned 29% of FC since last year…
Whatever… I am out of this thread.
I just see Hypocrites discussing with each other, because China is bad, but you still use most things from there.
Tencent is suddenly a no go, even tough they own 29% of Funcom since last year.
But go to reddit. Most there are also like that.
PS.: Good luck that Funcom/Jens see that whole thing different.
There are voices of reason emerging there. It always takes time. What took time for me was to become inured to “fanboy” or “crycry,” because as a staunch Sony supporter, this is all I’ve ever heard since about 2006. I should put Crying Fanboy on my business card, right under the Sony logo. Many people, however, are very offended by those characterizations, and this is why I piped up. Please don’t alienate the voices of reason here because there’s negative pushback elsewhere. We should be on this, and in this together.
I very happily accept what you say, and think you should say more of it, wherever appropriate. Personally, I don’t know you as well as @CodeMage, therefore I wouldn’t presume to speak for your dispositions, or predispositions. From my chair it was uncharacteristic of him to say such a thing, and my hope is that he’ll expound on it, again wherever appropriate. This sort of passion is what we need as players, and as a global-minded people.
Final words: Also I didnt want to offend anyone 
Not @Mikey and not @CodeMage … But I am so tired of political discussions. Thast why I am out of here… You will still see me complaining in other threads 
A laudable sentiment, but I’m too cynical to agree. Look at Google. Their whole spiel when they went into Chinese market was exactly that: let’s do good by helping Chinese people get access to more information. A few years later, you get Project Dragonfly.
I’m not alarmed that Tencent has a 29% share in Funcom any more than I’m alarmed most of my stuff was manufactured in China. But Funcom is a corporation and a corporation’s number one priority is profit, not democracy or freedom or social equality or the environment or any such thing. If Tencent starts owning the majority of Funcom, that will change their business practices – there’s a reason it’s called a controlling shareholder.
For now Conan is great, sounds like they have cool things in store for us, and until the game goes wrong, I have every intent to keep buying all content that comes along.
If I may be snarky in a comedic way, as a Google Android Partner, they’re a bit like the software version of a monkey’s paw. If you want it done cleanly, with QOL you can set your life by, stick to Apple. (I keed)
Tencent is currently the 29% holder. They are assembling a (reportedly cash) offer to buy the rest of Funcom. The reason why I am a bit more sanguine about this is because Tencent has a history of allowing clearly-directed, clearly-roadmapped developers to keep doing what they do in their respective markets – while modifying the regional product to meet various other cultural and geographical and even geopolitical mores.
The democratizing point I’m making is that Tencent is based on user participation, even if it’s mandatory, as some of the citations already provided have asserted. We play a game owned by a tech giant alongside a people, by and large, who are touched minute-by-minute by this company. They are reading our words. We are barbarians together, Exiles divided.
So it is a PVP official Alpha on CE then. Sorry, felt like some needed humor in this thread.
Yeah, This is Not going to play out like the Fucom talent thinks it is (Programmers, artists, story-writers). Personally, I will vote with my dollar. Not going to buy another edition of it now though, my personal risk assessment for my meager finances says ‘Outcome Unclear’ and ill just keep my 60 bucks.
It might have been lost in the comment storm, but I did
My wife has an iPhone. I can never figure out how to do things on it. I wonder how long it’ll be before I start yelling at imaginary kids to get off my non-existent lawn 
On a more serious note, neither Apple nor Google nor any tech giant I can think of has managed to keep their moral integrity intact in face of pressures of capitalism. I prefer to err on the side of caution instead of believing that Funcom might somehow be a paragon of virtue in that respect
Even if we leave aside the question of what pressure they might bring to bear on Funcom when it comes to using the players’ data (and abusing their privacy), I’m not really sure I want to be okay with helping Tencent modify Conan Exiles to meet Chinese regime’s geopolitical mores. If they don’t have the controlling share, then Funcom could more easily resist that – if they wanted to.
That’s precisely why I brought up project Dragonfly: that was Google’s project to build a search engine that helps Chinese government censor the searches and spy on the users.
But perhaps I really should stop talking about that stuff. I honestly did not intend to get into a political discussion, just as @jot29 didn’t mean to offend anyone. It just happened that way and it might have, in part, been an overreaction on my end 
Mixed feelings on all of this I suppose.
I don’t have a burning hatred for Tencent, however as @CodeMage has described, I certainly don’t like their way of doing business, nor the strong connection to a powerful controlling entity, such as the Chinese government, when so much interest is placed on controlling a narrative and censoring content.
You add in the typical business practices that have been used in the past, lootboxes, microstranactions, and more, and it all so often seems like the recipe for disaster. For the controlling interest to cannibalize a product to suck the money out of it, any dirty cent they can get, leaving a shallow husk of a reflection of the original as the remains.
Hell, even games that arn’t monetized in that way are often destroyed by acquisitions like this simply because someone with a different ‘idea’ of the overall game sits down in the pilot seat. Occasionally it works out of the better, or continued success. Often though, the game is designed away from what the player base enjoys.
Not to mention, we lose out on the ideas and some of the control the current dev have (or at least that is common after acquisitions like this).
When you don’t have the creators of the idea behind the driver’s seat anymore, you get things like Disney StarWars… and nobody wants that…
Anyways, I’ll hold judgement as there is no need of a coffin being made, no grave being dug until you see the pulse of a product actually cease to beat. I’ll continue to play when it draws my attention, and I’ll stop when it stops.
However, can’t help be apprehensive as almost all acquisitions like this that I have experienced in my games (and their have been quite a few) typically go down hill almost immediately afterwards in my perspective, or at the very least, are designed away from what I enjoy and believe the game originally was.
As for a subscription based Conan Exiles? Um, yah, no…
This isn’t a subscription based game. You think the movement change upset the player base, a subscription would kill the player base. That would never fly. Thats a decision that is made before release and consumers can decide weather the product is right for them or not. Turning this to subscription would be the biggest betrayal to their customer base Funcom could ever do.
That said, I personally don’t interpret ‘Games as a Service’ as always ‘subscription’. There are many models of ‘GAAS’ and I have not seen where a subscription being implemented was implied (other then the Tencent evil overlords common practice). I hope to god this is just player worry/excitement running away with them.
I don’t look forward to a change in game direction from what was originally intended. However, if slight, and Funcom holds enough power to keep CE aligned with how its always been, I could deal, even if Tencent was involved. If they slap on a subscription, take away my ability to run my private server (and/or worse, monetize that as well) my Conan time will stop that moment. I’ll pay for Funcom’s DLC as they have been in the past. I’ll pay for a Map dlc, and hell, I am even flexible on it not being fully cosmetic (as I’d probably buy it anyhow, and eventually purely cosmetic additions get repetitive after a while).
But I will never spend a single penny on a Conan Exiles subscription. If they want to make their Dune game subscription based, by all means. I can make a separate consumer decision on that. The idea of putting a sub on a game that has been under a different pricing model all this time is entirely asinine.
Until I see actual validity on that though, I’ll take it as just gossip/exaggerated rumor, as no company can be that void of business intelligence. I wouldn’t be surprised by a merger/acquisition that gutted the game and ruined it. I would be very surprised by the decision to slap on a sub and end the game that very day.
With other words…
You can’t make a stabilized game / releasing updates&patches.
But making a new game bigger compared to Conan is next level and hope not for next level bugs.
I saw article on Kotaku, and just shoke my head… Not fan of Tencent, alot of Companies they have claim in, say “good things” about them which is code for, they pay are bills we can’t say nothing bad about MT they add to games…
Most of what China touches or has claim in… just is never same. Look at all free hong kong stuff thru games and nba and all that.
New DLC map is cool and all… i’m not throwing confetti in air till I see it, and hell that may come with Tencent owning full share of another company.
There not Activision… yet.
You can never talk bad about your share holders…(inless you wanna lose them) So we’d never really know truth till it was to late.