I mentioned it often in the past.
Just a reminder.
Can you do it Funcom? Are you able to? Do you have the skills?
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Just double their damage for a patch cycle and then adjust from there.
I ran Javelin/shield a while back and it was more useful in melee then thrown. When I say more useful it was still horrible. Thematically it was neat but good lord is it a horrible weapon. Definitely needs help.
I feel like javelins/throwing axes are meant as more of “support” weapon in PvP when trying to chase down your foe, say you’re in combat with another player and they start running and get a bit of distance on you, it’s just a quick way to potentially cripple them and close the distance if you don’t have a bow/arrows on you.
For the pve aspect they just need a couple tweaks.
For example if you miss with a javelin and pick it up, it returns to the hotbar, but if you kill and loot it from the body, it goes to your inventory. The second wouldn’t be a problem if the one you throw is the one you use and lost most of the durability already. If the javelin is lower than 25% durability, let it break, so i won’t even bother picking it up.
I made a full session with javelins, they do have a good role in pve now, but in pvp i can’t say.
I trust @SirDaveWolf, he knows what he says!
This one would like to see single handed spear and shield get some love and attention.
Some time ago when there was the stutter attack bug, they were very utile.
Now, they seem a bit confused as to how they should be used and what their purpose is.
Part of this is the current combat kerfuffle.
Personally, this one would like to see them with a moveset closer to the shortsword special combo as it’s default, possibly capping with a shield bash.
The way they go back into inventory is awkward.
Also, thralls should never be given weapons with a throw option, which is a shame.
Throwing axes do a better job.
Yes, it should not be a throwable weapon. We have throwing axes and bows for that. The throwing animation is also really bad.
I assume this was sarcasm
Yes that is a good start. Basically a longer range shortsword with a little less damage.
I would remove the throw mechanic and make it a full melee weapon.
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Not exactly. Although i don’t throw javelins easy, i would like to have this option too.
Just give us heavy attack animation and allow it to be thrown with the special attack button 
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Javelins are already really cool, they just need to be treated as melee weapons as you said SirDaveWolf.
This is exactly what they did. They doubled the damage and then reduced it by 50%. I almost started using riptide permanently, but there are still the 5-7 other bugs with javelins not counting that the shield LA combo is slower than the normal LA combo. Do a quick search for javelin threads because there have been lots of suggestions thrown out.
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On PC, look for “Dogs of the Desert TRAINING” in the server list (tick “Show Servers with mods”).
Create your char, gear up and fight random people with 1h javelin.
You will get frustrated VERY quickly.
I know it’s a dueling server, but when the weapon is not even usable for dueling, it’s useless.
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No actually, cause I’m not even certain it will be enough. Even if they do get “OP” it would simply be the meta for a single patch cycle. They’ve never been anywhere except the bottom so I don’t see this being an issue.
Worst case scenario, it changes up PVP for a little while.
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Because the problem lies in it’s animation set.
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I’ve tinkered with them with an improved set of combos and I still thought they were lackluster. So they’d need both IMO.
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Thanks for saying this. I thought it was my imagination.
This is another problem. It’s only riptide 
. We need more legendary javelins!
Then again, they made riptide this way because it was the only weapon you could use in the water. Now you can use more weapons and be more efficient i guess, so riptide lost the only advantage against other weapons.
There for we need more legendary javelins!
Second problem i find playing only javelins is that it didn’t get extra dmg - armor pen - durability, when it was made from named blacksmiths. Photos for example!
This however generates another question too. I believe this is not unintentional, devs leaves these windows of differences in game to see the community reactions.
So here’s the question, does the pvp community enjoy the fact that something you can craft in your own inventory, or a simple bench will be this strong and durable no matter what?
The way it is, seems to give advantage to someone that was destroyed and tries to answer with nothing, but when pvp players say that it is not functional in pvp, then the whole idea seems pointless!
Another problem i didn’t like with javelins was the fact that the player can hold a stack of javelins (cool), use only one and loose durability on melee in only one (cool), but toss the good ones from the stack (not cool). It would be nice if we toss the used javelins, not the good ones and… Not retrieve them after because on toss they break!
Now javelins on head shot should generate huge pool of damage but depending on the strength of the character, not only the agility.
Yet the way it is, without target lock it’s very difficult to find any target ever if your are calmed and the target almost still . That’s why i ask the javelins toss to be only with special and similar to the archery charging, so the aim dot will work and do dmg but with a time penalty.
I have lots to say about javelins, i made a full session with them only and i fell in love with them. It’s on @SirDaveWolf and @LostBrythunian that my interest for this weapon went high so i try it amd enjoy it a lot. I made all the purges in this treasury…
And in this narrow hallway of resistance i kept the waves of purge the best i could just using javelins and shield
Javelins are exiting, i love their heavy sprint attack and i wish we had more heavy attacks with them.
Javelins do not need love only for pvp but for pve also.
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They do. They never piqued my interest because of how weak they are. It’s one of the few weapons I have almost no experience with. Finding out you did a whole run with them makes me laugh hard, @stelagel . You are one of a kind, mate! 
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yes yes yes yes yes yes
Please!
I don’t play PVP but I would appreciate a usable one-handed spear in PVE.
even the old Titan Quest has better one-handed spear & shield combat than conan
(and maybe a proper buff lances for PVE , currently they are only there for roleplay)
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Personally, and this is pure speculation, this one thinks the attack pattern of the Javelin may have been inspired by the movie 300. The leap, the lunge, the sweep.
It all looks very cinematic.
It just doesn’t quite synchronize with the way the game plays, not even before the Age of WT- er, War.
While the ragdoll dismemberment tracks, this game has exceedingly little in the way of one shots. The Javelin moveset seems most excellent for a Musuo title, like Dynasty Warriors.
Long ago, enshrouded in the mists of history, one could, if also armed with a shield, do a series of quick stutter thrusts with the Javelin. This was most likely unintentional, but was extremely effective (PvE) vs single targets. The damage, even if the dragon bone javelins (top of the line unless one had Riptide), was not very impressive, but it had excellent lock down and when the enemy recovered (this was back when stun/stagger resistance kicked in after awhile) the shield was there to let them exhaust themselves.
Boring but effective, just like a turtle formation should be.
This one still likes the short spears in concept.
However, not in a good place at moment. The lunge, even before the most recent situation, had somewhat high chance of over striking and the sweep+ advance was wide open while not being powerful enough to justify it’s vulnerability (personal view). But with the current issues… No, just no. It cannot decide if it wants to be fast and linear or slow and sweeping, but it loves to lunge. Not a winning formula at present.
@stelagel is a far more fearsome warrior than this one to make that moveset actually work in the current environment. This one, in their advanced years and treacherous disposition wins where winning is easy, meanwhile he is demonstrating Arete and Karteria in abundance.
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you might be right , my guess was Troy with Brad Pitt and his duel with Hector
(he wasn’t bad to look at)
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At the beginning of the movie, Achilles will face the best warrior of the other camp, he charges jump and pierce him on the shoulder, that’s our spring attack, it’s freaking awesome!!!
Of course in this clip Achilles don’t do javelin attack, but that’s the animation of javelin sprint attack.
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I am not a fan of double buffs in one patch, but yes, the damage is low.
If they rework the weapon they should allow this and from this point they have to observe.
Do they get picked up in PvP?
Are they still garbage?
Do they dominate?
Get player feedback!
And then make adjustments in the next patch.
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