Clearly you have little understanding of how the legal system works if you think religion has nothing to do with it.
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Who said anything about religion? All it takes is a little âthink of the childrenâ, add a touch of âwe have a moral dutyâ and a healthy dose of âany who oppose this is a monster who wants (insert minority) to dieâ. (Oh yes, they will think of some cockamamie way it causes people to die. They always do.) Bake for week or two in the CNN oven and presto. Donât need religion for that, as theyâve demonstrated on numerous issues.
And since youâre making some assumptions here, I should clarify that both examples Iâve given were/are spearheaded by democrats. This isnât tied to any particular party. This moral scapegoating occurs across the board. Weâve managed to fight them off so far, but that could very easily change.
EDIT: Weâre drifting a little off topic though. We already know thereâs no currently existing legislation behind nudity not being on consoles. That leaves the ESRB, retailers, the console manufacturers and Funcom.
The ESRB just rates the games. They have no say in what can or cannot be sold.
The retailers have the power over what they do or donât sell in their stores, but only for the stores each one is responsible for.
The console manufactures do maintain control over what can be allowed on their specific consoles and in what regions.
And Funcom, well, itâs their game. They are the ones who make the content in the first place. 
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No government in the United States can make any law or regulation, not federal, state, nor local that restricts the content in Video Games. The Supreme Court decision, Brown Vs. Entertainment Merchants Association has labeled video games as protected speech. Thatâs it, period, Law of the Land.
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for now anyway as people live and die those that stand for or against it will be gone the next gen might change that and possibly everything else. sad or funny âŠmaybe a bit of both
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HrmâŠ
I see full nudity on the servers I go on (just a matter of changing your settings)
I am in the UK, so I guess itâs different for those of you in the US. Itâs definitely not a console issue since I use a standard PS4.
I do find it odd that showing gory violent death is perfectly okay, but show a bit of skin and suddenly its not allowed.
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Oh it most certainly is a console issue. Those in the U.S. on playstation and xbox canât get full nudity. Those on PC can. Those in the UK, such as yourself, donât have that problem.
The console companies just arenât looking forward to another round of having to testify before congress to defend âimmorality and violenceâ on their platforms while being called scum (to put it nicely) by virtue signaling politicians and outrage groups. That tends to make them a little gun shy on this sort of thing.
Theyâve already been dinged in the court of public opinion at least twice that I can recall off the top of my head since those hearings in the 90âs. Once for the hot coffee controversy in San Andreas that you canât actually access without a mod. The other for the ten seconds of alien sideboob you can see in Mass Effect after thirty hours of gameplay. And while it didnât really make big news or get directed at consoles, Bethesda almost became a hot coffee sequel with Oblivion when someone discovered an art file that could render the female characters topless. That is of course, if you used a mod to switch which art file was referenced when the character wasnât wearing armor. That controversy is partly responsible for Oblivion being re-rated by the ESRB.
Big box retailers are also reluctant to put AO rated games on their shelves because in the U.S., AO is considered just straight up hardcore adult video store material by the general public. So if full nudity would give the console version an AO rating instead of an M, then itâs understandable why Funcom might be hesitant to make it available to the U.S. console market.
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I play on Chinese servers where no nudity is a requirement, and ive never looked at my toon and thought, âman, I wish I could see dat azzâ. Some odd people on this game.
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Hey, whatever floats your boat. 
Guess this is why PC is the master race.
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yes, that doesnât explain why the issue only applies to consoles is true
And in any case, this seems to be only because of FunŃom, but it seems to me that they are not particularly in a hurry to resolve this issue.
Because consoles get labeled for âkidsâ and PC are everybody thing were few clicks away is â â â â for everybody. Also PC has EPIC/Steam etc and is its own little market.
Its weird double standard.
My Time as a Capcom Moderator, had chances to talk with staff about it.
Sven (former head of Capcom NA) Broke it down like this.
It boils down to ESRB, and Who can sell what. ESRB rating system is lacking compared to PEGI. Also depends who reviews the games and how much is shown. (its how **** and b**** gets passed in GTAV)
Most Stores, WILL NOT carry a AO game. And reviewers who tag a game AO, you basically gotta dial it back. PEGI system has a nice middle ground from Full on â â â â games and Adult.
ESRB doesnt.
Plently of other factors. Iâll take Monster Hunter. Teen rated. But if youâve ever played Japanese versions, there is MASS Blood splatter when hitting targets weak spots. (this is one of things community asked to get added back in) As less blood meant you werent doing full damage)
Selling game to western world, they simply dialed it back.
Can take harpies in Dragons Dogma, who had there nipples toned down.
It can be stupidest things that cause a game to get rated higher.
pretty sure it was stimpacks labeling, or one of other drugs that got it banned there. (or maybe that was uk) for being to close to morhpine or w/e it was at the time.
Its Both, Its not a yes or no answer or one enity to blame.
take watchdogs, Had full nudity⊠but it wasnt tagged for it outright till some moron shared screen cap on social media of a girls V. And Parents stepped in with the WTFâs.
And it got patched out.
ERSB in general needs to redo its system, or Needs to be redone with better box markings.
Its never parents fault they bought game with violence, drugs and nudity (sarcasm) Its gotta be someone else fault. Stores, Clerk at counter, the Devâs etc⊠not the mom who couldnât take 5 seconds to read box. -_-â
Its not one entities fault. Iâve always pointed finger to ESRB and there bad rating system, which in turn causes Game Companies to decide on changes, so they can have larger seller audience.
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Yes but at the same time China has itâs own issues. WoW had toremove blood & gore to be allowed there. Yet at the same time they exploit children in their games as playable characters.
I going to throw this out before reading all posts. Sony entertainment. Not just playstation probably does not want total nudity on American consoles. For business purposes. Sales of all there other entertainment products movies TV entertainment. One nude game wonât make enough profit to offset the risk. Sony has been cleaning up psn messages. And is shutting down community pages. I think due to unwanted liability. Personally I would like full nudity in the game. Just not enough to go to pc or purchased EUROPEAN versions and all DLC again.
Just to summarize, nudity is available in regions governed by PEGI(Europe), even on console.
Full nudity is not permitted in regions governed by ESRB(NA), even on consoles.
Parents are not doing part when 8 and 10 year olds are playing this game. They should be monitoring what their kids play not game companyâs
Talking to a kid as he was creating character asked what was nudity told him to skip that setting. Later I find he is 8 years old. He knows a ton about the game though .
Why? Theyâre a private organization that can have any opinion it wants.
The issue youâre having here is people value their opinion over yours. If you donât like that, then -YOU- must take actions that convince people to listen to you instead of them.
Now understand this⊠my opinion is that parents should simply parent. Thatâs only my opinion. Its not greater than yours, its not lesser than yours. But it isnât the opinion the industry decided to follow. That was their choice.
Everyone has a choice. And the choice I made was to purchase the Steam version of Conan Exiles which does not have a ESRB rating. It was never submitted, there was no need nor desire for the Steam platform.
30% of what I paid for Conan Exiles and All of its DLC went to Valve, who has no restriction on games on its platform.
Those of you who bought this on Console instead gave a percentage to Sony and Microsoft and gave them the thumbs up (by your wallet) to restrict games based on ESRB ratings. You all agreed through your money to support to the ESRB.
Support for Playstation/Xbox is support for ESRB. Your opinion may differ. But the old saying goes⊠âMoney Talks, BS Walks.â And I am NOT calling your opinions BS. But I will say this. You all were likely ignorant to the fact of Playstation/Xbox being in bed with ESRB.
Youâre not ignorant now. Youâve been informed. Now you have a decision.
Do you continue to allow your wallet and hard earned money support the ESRB? Or not?
That choice is yours. Iâve made mine.
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Not about Opinion. Its about a outdated system, that doesnât cover games properly to give Companies and Parents better leeway on whats the game is labeled under.
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Woah, woah. You and @Sera67 are both getting a little off target here. Like I said before, the ESRB has little to do with it. Their only role is to give people some idea of what kind of content is in the game. Thatâs it. They make no decision on whether or where it can be bought or sold.
This level of content gets an E rating, this level gets a T, this level an M, and anything that goes past M is AO. Thatâs the extent of their responsibility and authority. Sure, an argument could be made that they need an X category or something to help separate AO from the stigma associated with â â â â games, but it doesnât change the fact that the have zero control over what people are allowed to purchase.
The console companies are who decide what is allowed on their platforms and the retailers are who decide what goes on their shelves. And ultimately, itâs the consumer that makes the final decision on whether or not to actually make the purchase. Thatâs how a free market works. If you take the responsibility out of the hands of these last three layers, you no longer have a free market.
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Yeah us was stimpack but Germany was not just that but language and violence and lots else was the result of that but on the parents itâs their responsibility to make sure that they know what they give their kids as their job is to raise them not just hand random game so they wonât bother them so they can do what they want as what I said was giving the product to them was there fault not what the content was their fault
Isnât that mod long gone and not worked on anymore?