Add stack size mod, hunt bearer thralls. I legit at level 13 just pulled a full stack of alchemical bases, a full stack of steel, and a full stack of steelfire out of sepermu just running from bearer spawn to bearer spawn. With a the stack mod that is running on the server that is 5K alch bases, 10K steel and 10K steelfire…
Then don’t play on a server that uses that mod? Seems pretty simple to me.
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This was a topic that came up on my server recently. Someone was like “what’s with the OP bearer loot?”.
We reckoned that what’s happned is that the bearer has always dropped full stacks and now that the stack sizes are incresed it’s pushed the bearer loot over the OP line and this might be an oversight on the dev’s part but shhhhhh! Fat loots!!
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Why should the devs balance their game around mods?!?
It’s meant to be the other way around.
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People tend to forget it all the time when reporting “bugs”, “issues”, “their experience”. They have to be constantly reminded to check the vanilla game and let us know whether their issue is resolved or whether their experience is still as described. I guess part of the issue is that many new players tend to skip the “vanilla” and jump on the boosted servers.
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Too true, hell even the difference in settings between PvE and PvP (1x vs 4x XP, 1x vs 2x gather etc) majorly changes the balance of some features. If you start adding in mods, all bets are off.
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I prefer to think of it as 1X vs 0.25 XP and 1X vs 0.5x gathering. 
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Well, sure. Probably more accurate since it feels like the game was balanced around the PvP values, at least for more recent systems like Thrall XP.
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I run set city a ll the time never even got close to those numbers from bearers unless I ran it over and over and over. Easier to remove the stack mod then ask Funcom to balance something a mod does.
Also the dev-streams and their timing of sth is based on PvP values… I never had a problem with the x2 gathering rate for PvP…
But the x4 XP is just…
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Perfect. I think the problem you are having is with the 0.25 XP rate in PVE, there is nothing wrong with the PvP rate.
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The problem isnt the rate in general… I had no problem leveling up to 60. But then again, 2 clanmates gave up, because all the interesting things are at 60 and it was tooo tedious for them.
They were between 40-50. So maybe make PvE also x2? Because the real fun and endgame starts with 60. Enough quit before that… (in PvE).
The problem I have with the x4 XP is for THRALL leveling and the not fighting thralls… Dancer to lvl20 at PvE is just… 
Eh…just to mention my server is not modded…is getting 500 of, say, alchemical base not a thing on vanilla servers?
Yeah… You get 500. Same “problem” the OP has, but his stack sizes are even higher.
The stack size increased and it was kinda programmed to give stacks and not a fix number of items. Therefore you get plenty of alc bases from T3 bearer packs.
I really want to know if obsidian is even used that much… I have 1 obsidian skinning knife in a seondary base. Thats it
And I always disassemble obsidian weapons and shields. So I have plenty of it…
Starmetal is used in mods for weapon and armors and even some armors.
I really want to see obsidian and/or starmetal T3 buildings Obsidian should really have more usages. And obsidian ores maybe too…
Yeah so I was just making the point that I think this is an oversight on the devs part regardless of whether you’re on vanilla or a modded server. They’ve increased the stack sizes but forgot that bearers always drop full stacks, which now makes farming them OP.
Do folks really think that leveling up in PvE is slow? If you just focus on doing the essentials, and not even try to grind XP, it seems like you level insanely fast as is. If you’re an experienced player and want to level up quickly on a new server, even 1X is nothing because you know where to go if that’s your jam (e.g.: quality time with you and a RHTS at the Mounds of the Dead).
Heck, even if you’re an inexperienced player, watch Firespark’s “do everything at level 20” videos and you’ll have a pretty good idea of how to powerlevel yourself up.
Depends on what we’re talking about. If we’re talking about leveling your character, it’s not slow for those who know what they’re doing, but the final stretch is tedious.
If we’re talking about leveling a follower, it’s depressingly slow and tedious and frustrating.
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I don’t know why you quoted me, I’ve never played PVE.
I was just making sure that the issue of the multiplier is expressed as the “0.25x PVE XP” rather than the “4x PvP XP”, as us PvP folks are perfectly fine with our multiplier and want it to be left out of any future discussions.
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A-men brother
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