Yes the Bazaar again and its whacky pricing

Serious question, what does make this worth €20-30 (on sale… yeah right…)

I know… if you don’t think it is worth the price don’t buy it, but lets be serious here…
And this about this price along with the current state of the game.

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Like I said in a discord page previously, the only encouraging in this card is that each item has its own price. I wish we could buy individually what we really want from each set and not whole of it. After 2 years i finally bought the Aquilonian toilet :woman_shrugging:t4:.
And yes, the prices are a bit insane, i totally agree with @prologue1337!

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The prices for the individual non-bundled rate of those items is about the same as you would see in a game like Everquest 2. The difference is instead of unlocking a recipe on an account, one of each would get delivered right to the active character’s inventory, and that is all you would get. Its for that reason some of the building pieces seem quite a bit cheaper (like 10 to 20 cents). But stuff like mounts, pets, or placeables (non-building piece) are the same price, despite only getting one.

But normally paying 20-30 bucks/pounds/euro/etc for a single mount isn’t unheard of. I’ve seen them go for much higher in other games as well.

If the prices seem crazy, then you are not the target demographic. Just close the page and go back to playing as normal.

Lol love how it always comes to if price seems crazy its not for you, none of that yes its super expensive and no they have not fixed any of the game issues brought with the new patch but daily they put out new lmao on sale things that were never ever full price, its sad they can not fix game but they sure can try to sell the crap for realdicklous prices and (yes I spelled it like a meant it) and someone always comes out to defend that price and make you feel like its your fault for asking an honest question. Really @Taemien come on you know its wrong, expensive and just another way to get to our wallets with never really fixing crap in this game but guess that is ok, leave it a few more days and people will forget their game is broke and just buy new over prices half the time does not work crap in their shop. Been gone and I see the same old folks still with the same old statements forgetting how really broke this game is yet again.

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Prices are extremely inconsistent. I’ve come across a few reasonably priced items this season… surprisingly… as though they’re listening… but then, there’s others that are completely overly priced and ridiculous. And yeah, if we can see individual prices, we should be able to buy them separately.

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For it to be ‘wrong’ it has to be harming someone.

Who’s being harmed? Let’s use the set in the OP. What exactly in that screen shot is causing harm and to who? Because right now, its all opinion and self-established arbitrary principle that is being used to describe the prices.

I actually do think the prices are too high for me, and I have issues with how the storefront operates and will not purchase crom coin until those issues are rectified. However I don’t attribute morals or ethics because it is a matter of personal preference and I’ve successfully identified it as such.

I purchased the game in 2017 for a little under $30. I paid on average about $7 for each and every DLC (never paid full price, even when they were new thanks to Steam ‘exploits’). When the Bazaar became available and crom coin was put in, I hadn’t made another purchase. So I am literally missing out on each and ever bazaar item by default by my principles and decision.

Am I being harmed?

Well no, I’m playing Conan Exiles just as I did in 2017. The content plus added content is available, there’s hundreds of thralls and items available and customization options that weren’t there with my initial $30 purchase. Had they removed access to things that I purchased and required me to repurchase them, then yes, I would have said they are doing something wrong.

But a 800 crom coin mount skin is not harming me. It could be 8,000 crom coin, or 8,000,000 crom coin and it would not harm me.

Lets say the bundle in the OP is 2,156,000 crom coin. Who’s being harmed by that? Well I would argue the only one being harmed would be Funcom themselves as no one would purchase that. However at 2,156 there are people who believe that the items are worth what they are buying.

Just because something is outside our price point, and unless you purchased said bundle, we are in agreement that the bundle in question is outside our price point, doesn’t mean we are being harmed. I’m not harmed, and you’re not harmed.

Those who purchase said bundle are also not being harmed. They believe they are getting what they want for what they (by virtue of their decision to act) believe it is worth, to them.

When I don’t make purchases for whatever reason, it doesn’t take away from the game I purchased, thus I cannot assign any fault or wrong doing. They can double their prices, triple them, tenfold them, or thousandfold them and it doesn’t change how I play the game nor my experience. Those who are willing to spend their money on what I considered to be overpriced items are free to do so and to enjoy them.

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Oh yes, they will.

I didn’t mind the price bump since the Bazaar coming from the DLC’s
I won’t compare it to the DLC’s but when you do… a few placeables for €30,- or 3 DLC’s for €30… whut? So far the only reasonable bundles are the building pieces…

Might argue armours would be worth a little more too… but with most armours having a terrible colour patterns or undyeable parts I would say its not worth the price either.

It is okay the Bazaar being more expensive than before, but currently feels very unfair, especially when you take the updates in consideration where the devs are totally disconnected from the players and what we players want.

The increase in price feels more like a quick fix for income, just raise the prices… just like how Disney+ made their streaming more expensive after each flop they released. Funcom is doing the exact same, create flops, balance income by increasing prices.

Increasing the price should come with increased quality not lower quality and higher prices.

Sadly no one on Funcoms end ever answers these subject or even ask us what we think. Just make a mega thread and forget about it. Cause they clearly forget since there is no improvement since Age of War.

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Yup, exactly this. But sadly some players will still go and tell you “oh come ooon, you know it’s wrong” and they don’t even see that they are only trying to push you to adopt their personal preferences. :woman_shrugging:

Hard to explain to some people I guess.

In my opinion most of the prices there are also too high, but I’ve bought stuff from bazaar and I will do it again, when and if I see something I want. What matters? If the price is worth it to me or not is all.

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Something can be wrong without being immoral.
Something can be wrong without being unethical.

The definitions of wrong encompass far more than just “sinful”, “dishonest”, or “unjust”.

As @prologue1337 noted, prices have gone up while quality has gone down. In my opinion, I do think this is wrong in accordance with the following definition of the word:
adverb: wrong : an unsuitable or undesirable manner or direction

If you want to raise prices (especially for digital goods that have no manufacturing or shipping costs to produce en masse), you better be delivering a top-notch experience. Which, I think most here agree, is not the case. Even their latest offering of the chess pieces had to be pulled from the store because it was broken af.

So yes, wrong is an apt word.

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Define"top-notch experience". :slight_smile: Of course I know the game has so many bugs and minuses, but there is no globally universal scale for this misty term you introduced.

If you think about it, it is just another subjective point of view about anything concerned. These are just your values which you are trying to apply on some imaginary globaly agreed on perspective. But there will be also people who are now bowing to Funcom for what they’ve done so far, and they will excuse any bugs in the game, becuase to them it’s not such a big deal and they have plenty of money which they will pleasantly spend on every bazaar item, not giving a second thought about how much they’ve spent on it.

Conclusion? To these people it is not wrong. And just because number of people agree on some idea that it is wrong, it is still wrong only to them and to some percentage of players, but not to all.

Of course you can say “bazaar prices are wrong”. So about the prices: It was not, will not be and is not anything else but your personal subjective opinion in which some number of people came to consent.

Taemien said it well.

Objectively, if I put out a bad piece of code, I’ve done my job wrong. If my code has to be rolled back because it broke things, it’s wrong. Having stakeholders who are understanding that mistakes sometimes happen doesn’t make it any less of a mistake. And if every time I release code, there are mistakes, it sure would be cheeky to insist on a pay raise or promotion.

I don’t judge those who buy from the store because, as you said, it’s their money and they can choose how they want to spend it.

I can and will, however, judge Funcom for continually putting out broken content and raising prices alongside such broken content.

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I see your point and I understand it.

My point was, that pricing for any digital content is subjective, not about “right” or “wrong.” And while your analogy of broken code applies to job performance, game content and pricing are market-driven, reflecting what players are willing to pay, not an objective quality standard.

Yes, it’s fair to criticize Funcom’s job quality, but the existence of buyers suggests these items still hold value for many, even though many disagree and they have every right to it. Also from my perspective it’s not about “nodding” to the devs as some people here often suggest.

Different players have different standards. Those who value the game enough to buy from the Bazaar aren’t wrong, and neither are those who opt out.

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talk about a good discount the half the normale discont price :smiley:

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Well NOW I am actually thinking about expanding the original Stormglass set. :thinking: I was never that much of a fan of this style unlike many others, so I was not willing to pay for it.

This price seems way more acceptable to me though.

i just wish we have the 2x2 gate on to every expansion building set
but a decent discount price the lowest building set price i have ever seing on the bazaar

600 Crome coins= 5 euro
normale price 1200 = 10 euro

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Serious: When a company makes anything, they can charge whatever they want for it. That is reality. If the customers determined the prices, that would be socialism. What standard is there for determining the price of anything that is original? There isn’t one. There is no open market for in-game item pricing. Furthermore, what is deemed expensive is relative to how much money a person has and is willing spend. I don’t think anything in the Bazaar is expensive, but a lot of people do. I understand if anyone believes something is expensive but if the items are selling, money is being made and that is a good thing because it means money for the company and that’s a good thing. What makes no sense to me is why are they spending any amount of money for the incompetence demonstrated with each update and all of the existing programming errors. It’s like they are afraid to hire competent people or can’t afford them.

Or they realise they can save on money and make more of it without needing to spend money on getting anything done or on people capable of doing it, and why make excuses for it, since “money is being made and that is a good thing”? Who cares about anything other than money, after all? If they can make more of it in spite of incompetent updates and programming errors, why not?

I don’t mean this to sound so snarky, but I genuinely don’t know how this couldn’t make sense to you, since they are probably thinking the same way you do, no? Isn’t it the logical conclusion to increase profits in the unfettered pursuit of them without regard for anything else by squeezing the most dedicated customers who stick around, while saving money with the absolute bare minimum of a team? More money is being made for the company, and that sucks for the rest of us.

:rofl: :+1:

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Every game goes along with that damned undermesh bug…and stucked NPCs and things like that…last game i played,more than 5 big bugs catched,two updates patch with long list of fixed things after,still there.
The game before the last,was buggy too.

Dune looks good,open-survial game,building,big map.
It can compite against others similar big games,at first look.In my opinion.

I only hope Funcom take a lot of care with gunfights or melee combat…using bombs or mines or other things is really funny but most important is combat behaviour.

Animal´s attack,now they have implemented death viuals in fights,maybe they can use some similar against animal attacks,i now,i now,like in other games…that´s is!!!..now you use a stop in fight to add death visuals,you can add this to bites from animals.

Fixing stuff and adding some things is work to do,i don´t know if with an old game new players are coming or prefer other open-survivals games,people playing this game can spend–10-20–30–50–euros/dollars by YEAR…we have the same game but different…i think is right.

Offers are right priced,others are high,i still keep asking for a lot of offers,or lesser prices,and a shop,if i play and i see new things…maybe 50 euros by year is cheap at all.Yoy will play 1 month,2 or 3…don´t spend money in other game and pay things in this and people who plays this will find new things to do.

I have CE,from a sale offer,IoS from a sale offer,all DLCs from a sale offer…from bazar i think i paid with no offer,some were offer but some don´t.
Marketing director has catch me…so you keep asking for lower prices but you have paid with no offer?..really?..YES…so don´t they are over priced?..YES THEY ARE.
What a funny guy!