It would be cool if Funcom would consider adding a traditional Geisha dance, and music, to complement the Yamatai/Onsen stuff
A while back i thought about posting a thread of other traditional dances the game could use. Glad to see I’m not the only one thinking that way
I’d rather see them flesh out the canonical Hyborian Age cultures first. But I wouldn’t say no to music and dance.
I can’t even get what is so much of “Yamatai” doing in this game, all these katanas everywhere, bazaar items.
It must be some attempt to cater to anime fans
or someone at FC is still watching japaneese cartoons at 40
Point me to the Howard’s novel where Yamatai is even mentioned…
Also cloning medieval cultures existing in our current world is just wrong.
Hyboria is a reality pre-dating our known ancient times. If anything it should build on ancient lore and fairy tales of existing cultures.
You see the knights of the realm sets?
One of my issue with Conan is I’ve studied world history. The age of steal was 1800 BC in Turkey; real close to the right area for Conan. There was no full body plate armor. No one jousted with lances. The first recorded joust was 3K years after the age of Conan; esoterically speaking.
None the less The game could use some animation revamps. Some of the dances skip or stutter. And it really would have been nice if the DLCs came with appropriate traditional dances.
A Dances of the ages pack would be nice.
BUT NOTHING MODERN. If you want the backpack kid dance please find a mod.
I’d be down for a shamisen instrument and emote. Maybe a seating pillow with one laying on it and you can place a thrall or use it yourself.
Could use Spotify in the meantime
Impossible, there was no Turkey in 1800 BC, that country is 100 years old.
You meant The Emperor of Mankind, not Conan
Well we already have full plate armors in base game as well as DLCs.
But this is not a problem.
The issue is that in Conan lore the world is getting devastated by global cataclysms. These destroy the kingdoms, cultures and technology. People start over from the beginning. Some devolve back to animal stage and live in packs acting like animals.
World of Conan is one after such cataclysm where humans are reclaiming the Earth and encountering ancient, magical, Cthulhu-ish races and ruined kingdoms.
There is so much space for imagination, and to simply copy actual medieval cultures into the game is just wrong.
Warhammer is doing this and they are better at it.
You can even pick a race when you create your character but that means nothing later in the game.
We can clearly see that there were much bigger plans for this game, and I know of many things that were in the devkit and were never used or removed. This was supposed to be much richer and more complex game.
But we have what we have and apparently gayshas are the thing we need now.
You know very well what i meant.
I defer to Jimbo on all things of Conan lore.
To be fair, Warhammer does have over 40 years of their own fantasy products, designed by hundreds (if not thousands) of different designers, that they can go back to and take inspiration from. (Not that I feel like the straight medieval stuff really fits for CE - ironically, it would fit much better for warhammer…)
More precisely, a mythical reality.
And we even know the author of this myth
Warhammer started as a parody/ripoff of various cultures, mythologies and fiction - including the Hyborian Age (Sigmar is kinda similar to Conan, as in he was a barbarian who became the ruler of the most advanced nation in his age). The whole “Old World” is total nonsense from an economical point of view, whereas Howard never made an effort to depict the Hyborian Age in such detail as to start making no sense.
Howard created the Hyborian Age heavily inspired by real-world cultures. So copying those into the game is just repeating what Howard did.
Mind you, much of that supernatural content was added because the publisher of Weird Tales demanded it (or they wouldn’t have been weird enough tales). Howard was also a prolific author of historical fiction with no, or few, supernatural elements in them.
The original Warhammer old editions was literally renaissance Europe + Tolkien’s Middlearth + make the shit hit the fan and things became dark…
If anything was copied there then it was Tolkien, but all the rest is homebrew and it had made WH unique.
He kind of is, because he was also a badass barbarian. But he’s not a main character but a person mentioned in the lore. He was a barbarian who had united barbaric tribes of humans and then fought off the greenskins.
And afterwards these united savage lands have become the Empire.
Conan and Aquilonia is a different story. In WH we have Germanic barbarians starting the 1st German Empire.
You don’t know what you’re talking about, WH is renaissance Europe + races borrowed from Tolkien.
Howard depicted postapocalyptic fantasy world (Chthulu-ish ruins and races), vast empty uninhabited lands and young human kingdoms scattered around.
Now, there is that new thing Warhammer: Age of Sigmar, but this is unrelated to original WH and it’s some high fantasy realm for younger people. For me it feels like the Sanctuary world from Diablo.
And it was a great idea as it made these novels amazing.
Also he was one of the first to take the women characters out of the kitchen and placed them in the main roles as badass heroines (and he did it well, unlike Disney and modern woke entertainment, which turns female heroes into some caricature).
Anyway I have not seen any samurais and gayshas in REH’s novels.
The Warhammer I know was a table top game. I used to paint armies for people; $$. Late 80’s.
There was a mod that made players remove corruption while they were dancing.
That is what we need, sure.
So we can have “thrall gueixas” sunk in the foundations, but at least, they are culturally accurate dancing in there.
Okay:
- We have millions of Norse living in the frozen Chaos wastes and the general neighborhood. How does that environment support such a population? Oh yeah, they’re raiding. Mostly they raid their neighbors, who also live by raiding. It’s the best kind of circular economy, there’s no primary sector at all.
- We have millions of ogres (or whatever they’re called after the IP purge) living in the local version of the Himalayas. These ogres are depicted as eternally hungry gigantic people who eat enormous amounts of… yeah, what? Tons of lichen growing in the snow-covered mountains?
- We have millions of Beastmen living in the forests within the Empire. Are we seeing a pattern yet?
- And then we have the Orcs and Goblins, who are more numerous than the rest combined.
The Old World economy could not support such populations, especially since many of the more populous cultures have no primary sector, or a very limited one.
Games Workshop and I have… let’s say, a bit of history. It’s a long story.
Also, let’s not forget that the Warhammer world also borrows from French and English Arthurian legends (Bretonnia), Celtic mythology (Wood elves), Nordic mythology (Dark elves), elements of ancient Egypt (Khemri), etc. Of course, Tolkien also borrowed heavily from some of these sources. In fact, I once wrote an essay on the sources from which GW has borrowed its material over the decades. (Unfortunately it’s in Finnish, and the web site where I posted it is down. But I’ll try to find a copy.)
Very, very little of what makes Warhammer “unique” is actually GW:s own creation. Most of its material is borrowed from somewhere else. I’ve seen many people claim that Warhammer was the first setting where Orcs were established as green-skinned, but even that is false.
Bards period would be great.
While not in entire agreement, this one does echo the mild frustration with the glut of Yamatai everything while significantly more prominent Hyborian cultures go without.
But then again, there’s a weeb in every hobby.