Archers on Siptah

can anyone explain to me why almost none of the archers on SIptah have agility? Seems very odd to me.

In exiles is the same. Depends the food you use

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When I played in Exiles I had almost all agility thralls. The treasure hunters had a nice mix of str/agility thralls. I don’t see that in Siptah unless I’m missing something.

Siptah, surges withstanding, has 4 factions.
Exiles : who aren’t worth consideration except for collecting.
Accursed: Who use the exact same stat spread as Forgotten Tribe on Exiled Lands, being Vitality and Strength primary (if you have any of the bows that use Strength instead of agility, that’s fine, but there is no exchange merchant for it like on EL).
Stygian Invaders: Basically Relic Hunters, they have the better Agility, and ok Vitality/Grit.
Black Corsairs: These are interesting. Most are Grit Primary with ok Agility, but some of the named Black Hand pirates from Exiled Lands appear in the mix (example: Sarnai Thorn). The Black Hand is high Agility and only Agility. But are all around not very good.

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ok great thanks for the info. I guess I have just not really experienced to much black hand on Siptah with part of the map being unavailable atm, but will keep my eye out for ones I can get to

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This is not true, pirate archers have 30 agility and a very good chance of a high agility leveling percentage. Several times I got 100%. Sarnai, Kristian, Yekika.

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Yeah I just have not been able to get to those pirates because a portion of Siptah is unavailable atm.

It’s clear.
I will say more: almost all named pirate fighters also have 30 units of agility and the same chances of leveling it up as archers (and the same multipliers). Except Swashbucklers: Gorin, Tarn & Gira.
And all they only have 1 unit of strength. That is, having received a named pirate, in any case (exept these three) you need to level up his agility.

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I do remember stygians to come out with good Agility! Is it changed?
I have to double check it. However there are strength bows too, for example Derketo voice, so i would go on Ulrich and priest statuettes. I know it’s a lot rng but this guy with this Bow? Omg it will be!

Kunar, Umbra - 20 agility. And the chances of leveling up are much worse than those of pirates. So there is no alternative to pirates as archers on Siptah.

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This i have to check my self :rofl:.
You cannot imagine how many Lians or Freyas went 60 strength points but never hit stronger than a Dalinsia with 30 points or Spinas with 25. The history of the game so far had fighters to be better archers than archers. But i will check soon enough and let you know who’s best to what :wink:.

I think in general it just irks me that there are characters who they call archers with 0 agility. Doesn’t make sense

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In fact, yes, if you just need the most powerful ranged warrior, then it’s easier to recruit Dalinsias and Berserkers and put them on the walls. Their ranged combat multiplier is one and a half times higher than that of pirates, in any case they will be stronger. But I leveled the archers up to level 40-50, and that’s when the pirates really make the strongest archers.

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lvl 40-50? Thralls only goto 20

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Thralls level to 100 (steamcommunity.com)

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That’s absolutely correct!
But allow me to upload my test too, @Teng is an amazing member and doing conversations with him is joy!
Thank you for your tolerance @Ronin_A.D :metal:.
So test 1
A simple Berserker lvl 20 with simple armor based on grit 229 :rofl::rofl::rofl:, gruel for healing :rofl::rofl::rofl: but with Derketos voice and star metal arrows…
Here’s the result, he fought the spider all alone!




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So this is a renamed berserker? I associate the name Marсos with “Markos, Bane of Beasts”

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what map is this? siptah?

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that’s with a mod though

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Nah, i just name my lvl 20 without names after names of my friends :rofl:. This is Marcos from @MarcosC :wink:.
Test 2
This fighter can be found in North jungle. There’s a spot that all the named ones you find in the pirate camps you’ll find them there too.
She has tremendous Agility, ok she is a fighter again not an archer, but i didn’t trust her with low armor, she would die even with this vitality.
She had the splinter 36/12 instead of Derketos voice that’s 38/12 but her agility is 56 :man_shrugging:.
Look how it went





She used 84 arrows, 84!
The Berserker used only 58.
There for… Imagine Ulrich with Derketos voice and huntress arrows, it will be omg!!!
But tomorrow i will go in Siptah and test him with star metal arrows and Derketos voice to let you know how it went if you wish. Yet i believe that the fighters remain still better than archers even in archery. Yet Ulrich is an archer. I will ask the help of @Coyote0903 here. I am pretty certain he has this purge female archer from Cimmerian berserkers purge. If you have her @Coyote0903 can you tell us if she is better than the Berserker?

No i play again in exile lands. I don’t refresh bases, when i get bored i let everything to decay.
I don’t maintain bases in servers anymore, it’s pointless for me. If i wish to rebuild and repopulate it will take me max a week, so there’s no reason to refresh :man_shrugging:.

Ps. Zero authority points.

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