Barbarian vs Conqueror- which is more "fun"?

Which class would you say has a more involved and interesting gameplay?

conqueror is probably more involved because it’s a tank whereas a barbarian only does damages. that means you will have to do correct positioning, care more about survival, also look into all agro related stuff, etc.

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Does that apply to solo gameplay too?

Ty them both i do believe in personal experience , then decide by yourself for yourself .

Barb is the ultimate fun class at both pve and pvp

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Carnage conq infinite charge can be very satisfying as well though :slight_smile:

For anyone reading this later who found it.

Having played both quite a lot, Conq absolutely destroys Barb in basically all scenarios except for in groups. Conq is so damn tanky, even right at the start of the game you can pull 4 enemies of higher level and absolutely butcher them all without even losing a quarter of your health. Barb barely handles a single foe of similar level by comparison.

In the later game Conq gets dozens of passive abilities that buff the heck out of everyone just standing around him. He doesn’t even have to do much in terms of managing these abilities either. Just “existing” and turning on the ability is enough to grant nearby friendlies the buffs. Conq also ends up getting tons of self-healing and sustain too which Barb doesn’t get any of.

Barb on the other hand is a really solo focused class and that’s why it’s considered a “Rogue” class and shares many of the same skills. Being limited to wearing cloth makes you so stupidly squishy that it really is the definition of a ‘glass cannon’. Yes later on you can 1 and 2 shot mobs as a Barb but when 3 or more enemies are all aggroing you at the same time, some mage or ranger NPC can just no-scope you from across the map and you’re dead. If you were a Conq, spells and arrows just bounce off you.

If you want to make big pulls and basically never have to worry about dying, play Conq.

If you want to pull one enemy at a time for most of the game but still do absolute max melee damage, then play Barb.

To be honest, you don’t seem to have much of a clue of how to play barb, because, when played correctly, it can annihilate groups of 4-5 mobs with ease. :smirk:

Try this spec in Blood Rage stance and don’t forget to keybind the weapon swap. Use 2h for Staggering Blow (Reverse Swing buff) and CC combos, and dual wield to kill. :wink:

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Barb wears light armor and is not limited to cloth.
The group buffs a barb can bring to the table I would not trade for a conq at any time.
Also, comparing apples with oranges here - one is a tank, one is a rogue dps.
And I gree with @Yawgmoth , seems like you did not play your barb to its fullest potential.

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If you think its a big possibility that you will tank, conq is great option being able to opt in for both tanking and damagedealing.

If you dont find it likely that you will tank eventually. Definitely go with barb.

I rarely see anyone main dps-conq. For several reasons, the main one being that you will be invited less to group-content. You will fight over gear with tanks who actually tank and for that reason raids and esp dungeons avoid taking them.

Carnage conqueror (dps specc) has a very basic way of playing without any real learning curve, which might bore you in the long run (right now as a fresh player this might have less impact since you are new to the combatsystem regardless). While barb has two major playstyle options with the two threes thats more suitable for a main character.

You should try both , theres nothing like first hand experience , and decide for yourself by yourself not some random answer from AOC forums or global chat.

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I’m sorry but you’re comparing a tank (the conq) to a melee dps (the barb). That’s like asking if a demonologist (mage type) is more fun to play than a guardian (tank type). They have entirely different play styles and roles in the game The archetype of “soldier” in this game is the tanks. They’re the ones meant to be meat shields for the group to be able to take down. The archetype of “rogue” in this game is for the dps who’s not magic based. They are the damage dealers. In AoC the “rogues” the combination of the typical rogue you see in other games (assassin), ranged physical damage users you see in other games (ranger), and melee dps you see in other games (barbarian). The only class with an archetype that is different than what role they actually perform in the group is the bear shaman who is a “priest” archetype because their primary stat used is wisdom and can perform healing spells but the reality is they are a melee dps who can also help with healing the melee.

Conq might be powerful and tanky, but like 1/3 of their abilities are only for group play. For solo, they are useless.

If you want to be like Conan, play a Barbarian. It is unlike any other class. Amazing single target damage and even better AOE dmg. Fatalities nonstop. Combo strings galore!

Barb can also stealth since it’s a Rogue class. They can also wear light armor instead of cloth and can wield every weapon in the game including javelins, throwing knives and bows/arrows. Except for polearm.

their trees are for powerful 2h attacks or fast dual-wielding. Suprisingly good survivability and probably the most continuous dmg as melee dps.

Always have fun. Wanna be like Conan? Wanna be like a Viking? Wanna be a brutal warrior that can defeat ANY other class? Be a Barbarian!

You must be a necromancer !

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1/3 of conq abilities useless solo? Woah, that’s one hot take.

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Back in year 2012,i had a barbarian that with some specs in two handed i can tank 4 or 5 NPCs without disbrush.

Sadly i lost the account info of that barb.

Starting from 0 this time as a Necromancer aquilonian.

By the way to the open thread user,conqueror is a tank. Unless you only play pve,soldier classes in PvP as solo player without friends and/or guild,you will die pretty much and fast, specially versus 2 or 3 dds.

I had my experience in the server Fury in the past with a guardian playing solo and believe me,a Ranger and an Assassin who are friends made my guardian to eat floor.

I would not recommend playing a soldier as a solo player unless he does pve content only.

I would not recommend playing on Fury since it’s a dead server and you can’t do pve at all there.

But soldiers are very strong in pvp. With heals they are invincible and they can win plenty of duels without. Conqueror can kill anything in duels, DT with a bit of luck can too, guardian can kill a few classes but not all.

Expecting to solo a group of players though
 you’ll have to be geared and very skilled to pull that off, otherwise the game would be totally unbalanced.

At my return i would like to play a cimmerian Dark templar,but my experience in server fury years ago made me think twice to play a tank.

Who say it can not happen again once i reach level 80 in server crom and be beated in PvP in battlegrounds?

I know that tanks in PvP 1 VS 1 are fun and you feel a real knight,but 2 dds versus you in a PvP match and you are dead.

I am not saying to the open thread user to go to fury server but again, if he play a tank in a battlegrounds at level 80,he will be beaten if he play solo like me and a healer priorize his friends or girlfriend/wife over you.

Another thing is different scenarios,where you are the last tank and healer,then we talk. But not happen anytime.

By the way i will play,as a final decision,a healer,possibly priest of Mitra. I had a tempest of set years ago that i leaved at level 78,so i have experience a bit with healers in AoC.

To the open thread user,try a tank like conqueror in a battlegrounds and later tell us your experience.

The issue is your expectations, you want to solo a group because you picked a tank in pvp?

That won’t happen unless you are way better geared and skilled than they are, otherwise that would mean the game is totally unbalanced and unplayable for those who don’t pick a tank.

That being said tanks are on the “too strong” side in AoC pvp already, conq and DT can easily dominate any form of pvp, and guardian can be very successful in group pvp when backed by a healer.