Nah I’m sorry your example doesn’t make much sense here… the example shows absurd pricing which the battle pass doesn’t.
They might make more money when they sell the items via any kind of shop later on, but this will make a inconsistent cashflow, they don’t know when the money will flow to invest and further develop the game. There is no reason for anyone to buy a battle pass if its added later to the game.
If they promise to only add the items once in a battle pass, players will buy it cause they don’t want to miss out on it, this means the cashflow is exactly where you want it.
Marcospt, therryy exactly the time restriction is the biggest annoyance in battle passes, it shouldn’t matter how long it take for someone to unlock the items.
The only reason I can think of for time restriction is if they want more people to play the game those battle pass times.
Without time restriction players can still silently support when they don’t have the time to play at a given battle pass time and unlock the items later, so they don’t waste their money in just supporting the live service… without getting the items cause they were not able to play.
In short: Buy the pass at release and always be able to unlock later on. But don’t sell the battle pass after the time expires.
The battle passes will probably added online, you would probably be able to buy it online.
90 days without internet would be tough… ask a friend maybe to buy it for you when you can’t?
Yes but if I look at the past…
Once I was 4 month not at home. I am not sure anymore which one it was. I think yamatai. So I buy it when I start again…
In future I will miss it and FC will miss my money.
The other time was siptah and nemedian. I was waiting until the game works again. It was not playable. Over an year…
Again I miss the dlc and FC miss my money.
So I don’t see it like this. The only way I see is that you are able to get it for free while battle Pass and that should be why you play the battle Pass. When I don’t own it but want to own the dlc packs and I am willing to pay for it what’s the problem? Put it in the shop make a price… Maybe some crom coins more if its not the current battle Pass item.
If I can buy it after it was in BP. Funcom will get my money and i am happy because I have new cool building styles and amor… Nobody lose here anything and in these case they get my money. And if I am not playing for more then a year and there are tons of items I missed… You can be sure I will buy everything if I am able to do this… But with these system I am not… I am even not able to see what I have missed… The whole work of devs and designers I will never see
I already covered that statement in my previous reply
Its a lot of replies here so you might have missed it
They would miss inconsistent income, when a battle pass that’s only accessible during that time would aim for a more consistent income and therefore add a better flow in development because they know when the money arrives.
But there must be a reason for players to buy the pass, if they re-release its contents the reason for players to buy a pass isn’t the “feeling of missing out” but “I can get a better deal”.
The better deal is the last thing I care about personally…
If battlepass and major content DLC like siptah etc are seprate, then i really dont mind. Participate in battle pass for the rare cosmetics or ranks, banners etc if that suits you. its not my cup of tea but its clear right here in this forum people support a battle pass system. ill only be upset if major content is locked behind a battlepass. till then whatever Funcom adds to try to make more money is just that, Another way to try to make a little more. im not angry by that at all so long as its optional. i bought all the DLC and cant wait for whatever Funcom thinks of for the next one.
Yeah I know its a little bit confused. I fully understand this point. Maybe I don’t understand how bp works but like I understand I am able to get everything for free when I make the tasks.
Also I am able to pay for the battle Pass and get crom coins.
Ahh I stop here… I should wait until they release it and see how it works
Maybe the European law is faster and change the rules for ingame currency and then they have to ad euros instead of crom coins… That will change the whole thing
Lets see what it looks like when its implemented in the game. you and i share the same concerns. if its just cosmetics- yknow different colored clothing, different colored weapons. thats not a problem man.
How can you not possibly understand what we’re saying? If you have accidents or sicknesses or no money or no time or whatever the frick might keep you from getting that one pass so be it. Theres obviosly more important stuff happening in your life than getting a new skin for a building piece in conan exiles.
With you not being able to miss out on one forsaken battle pass YOU tie yourself to the game not the other way around.
Why is bad marketing a bad argument? Ofc its an argument for a company to use a marketing strategy to the best way possible for them. Generating stable income through individual passes which cant be received after 1 year if you may or may not feel like buying it is not at all a bad argument. We could go much more into marketing right now but it will only dismantle your point of it being a bad argument.
The building pieces will only be a variant of an already existing piece like a wall variant of tier 2 or 3.
The armour and weapons will only be a variant of an already existing items but with a different skin.
All purely cosmetic, Dennis stated this in the livestream.
I don’t think currency related to in game or cashshop would be illegal ever, this makes online selling a pain in the ass if they forbid this. it wouldn’t make sense.
But talking about game currency is another topic, battle passes will still be allowed
What im hoping for is a way to purchase the exact amount of crom coins needed for the item(s) you want. There are games that do this with in game currency. i saw someones concern about needing only , say, 250 coins ( i forgot the exact amount they stated my bad) but the increments the store allowed ( hypothetically) was 500, 700, 1000. leaving you with left over coins that wont amount to much. Again , this wont make me stop playing Exiles or anything but it would make for a smoother store experience for us yknow?
i mean this respectfully Rein, i dont think it would matter if its a completely new armor set. when they have shown in the dlc packs that any new armor sets were scaled to previous armor levels. an example would be like the medium yamatai helm ( my bad for not being exact) was the same armor rating as a medium leather helm. it looked different but had the same level of armor as a regular vanilla medium helm.
the battlepass is a way to show off a rare cosmetic you worked hard for ( or not if you just bought your way through)
its no different than purchasing a dlc and having a different colored armor or sword. im sure it will be scaled fairly to the vanilla game
I know it’s a difference. I don’t saw any gambling lootboxes in the funcom model.
But in one article about this I read that ingame Currency that you can buy for real money become a problem for some country’s. Because of taxes. The easiest way is to make a price in real money… I don’t understand the problem… Like every online shop do it. If I want to buy something in a shop why I should change to there own currency. What is if I have more coins than I need. Can I change it back?
That’s whats could be a problem in some country’s.
And i think the crom coins are related to the battle Pass?
The question really boils down to whether they will make more money off people who get their jollies from having something that someone else somewhere can’t or whether more money is to be had from selling those already existing assets for however long the game continues to exist.
The bulk of people who are going to buy the battle pass probably don’t care. They’ll buy it because they want it now or they want to support the game.
The other two groups are:
People who will only purchase for the exclusivity of it
And
People who would purchase those assets later whether due to joining the game later or due to other circumstances could not complete the Battle Pass
This one sincerely hopes the quality of cosmetics in the Battle Pass merit their desirability on their own merit, but understands the cynicism that the only reason they would be worthy is the ability to have something someone else doesn’t.
After all, mediocre digital art of primates commands a high price, based purely on exclusivity. A quick cash grab in the name of Hanuman wouldn’t be unthinkable. It’s a stretch to call it lore friendly tho.
Right I see, I don’t see why currency ingame would be a problem as of now, if you can buy ingame currency you shouldn’t buy to much not more than you need, can’t really blame the currency for that (I’m aware you can’t switch it back to real money which is more than often a few cents).
I don’t think you need to buy crom coins to buy a battle pass.
We already pay taxes via Steam, at least here in my country.
