PREFACE: I have maybe 15+ characters on PvP servers over the years. In this current one, I really dig what I’ve made for myself so far, but I must confess I built a layercake before I knew it was illegal. To me, this is insurmountable, as I will not wipe myself.
Coupled with body vaulting, I think a wipe is necessary.
We have recently received a flow of new players that I hope one day I’ll get to fight. Until then, I was planning to build a spiderweb of fence foundations to protect my main base from trebs and Avs. This is now illegal.
My birfday is tomorrow and I’m trying to improve myself. Until the wipe, are there any other PvP things I should stop doing?
In the third of December I will close 27 years of experience being 18 . So happy 18 my friend once again . On mad Max we will always be Mel Gibson my dear @h3rb1, we don’t know this boy. Now, about pvp…
I do agree that in the games order Dominance is the higher goal, for every aspect of the game but especially for pvp. But I believe that how you decide to dominate in the server you play is the greatest bet here. I believe that people are carrying their characters in their game play because this is exactly what hobbies are doing to all of us. It is our free time so we can be what we want to be and not what we have to. Still it bitters me that a lot of persons are carrying toxicity on their game play, but at the same time what they just pull to the surface is what they really are… Sad.
In any case my greatest vote on what you must not do when you play pvp is being toxic. People should see gaming as a sport, should play by the general rules and with honesty. Winning or loosing by fair play is just experience. But when you loose from toxicity then it can become nightmare, you can carry this bad experience for days even months, it leaves a scar. Nothing good can come from toxicity, so I would love not to have it in my gaming time.
That’s all.
Happy birthday m8, I wish you joy, health, love and money, money, money (must be funny)
When I started, we would take an entire rock face and build layers of protection around it. I’ll log on later and put up some pictures. It seems to me I might be breaking the rules by claiming an entire rocky mountain thing. I did it twice, encircling it multiple times in anti-climb.
Plus I built green wall to green wall. That’s gotta be against the rules somewhere.
Personally, before applying any meta, I use a baseline . I ask my self: “if someone else did this would I kindly ask them to ‘ingest a satchel of Richard’s sans masticating’” if no, then I continue.
Y’all are just the best! Showered with birthday wishes is a state I’m delighted to log on to!
I haven’t had time to take any snapshots, but I think you get the drift: originally I’d built one of my bases with the intention of claiming land all the way up to the NPC Camp near the base. Makes the front side hard to penetrate, kind of forcing an orb or arrow attack. There’s actual strategy here. It just makes me feel a bit wary playing and enjoying myself but ill-representing the game.
Honestly what really changed there? It’s still not straight. It does not specify what is restricted in building, what is considered foundation spam and NOTHING about ceiling stacking. This is just ridiculous - at this point we can clearly see they by themself don’t know what is right or wrong as they avoid answers, I have asked multiple times to mods / funcom zendesk support - NO answer.
It can’t… that would only allow people to build on the line of right and wrong, and find a way to be an ass. And then counter Staff with “not against rules!” and keep being ass’s.
Case by Case basis is how it has to be… Staff has to look at it, and go… ya… thats fairly normal base, nothing bad. OR ya, there clearing walking line and trying to push it.
Rules are important… but its also important to remember the rules will also be used against you. You need a gray area.
Seriously, I don’t know why this is so hard to understand. I’ve literally seen that kind of crap on Siptah PVE-C 6445, where more than one troll did everything they could to harass people they disliked, all the while saying things like “I didn’t wall them in” and “I didn’t block the access to a dungeon”.
And on the other extreme of the spectrum, we have very recently had someone on these forums state that your build shouldn’t be allowed to suppress a single resource node (e.g. a freaking bush), and if it does, it’s against the rules and you should be banned.
Never underestimate the human capacity for being a dick to someone else, out of sheer pettiness or just for shiggles.
NO. Grey area is something we should avoid. CLEAR RULES should be written down clear as day and night. In case of situation like this they could always update rules. Now it’s just clownshow, and that’s causing report wars, hindering funcom support with tickets and NO CLEAR indication of what people can do or can not do. Don’t know what kind of logic comes from, it’s nonsense. As i said they clearly don’t know what’s legal or not anymore and don’t want to make decision, i have sent many questions with EXAMPLES to forum community managers, zendesk tickets about building claiming and stacking and got no answer back.
Seriously, I don’t know why this is so hard to understand. I’ve literally seen that kind of crap on Siptah PVE-C 6445, where more than one troll did everything they could to harass people they disliked, all the while saying things like “I didn’t wall them in” and “I didn’t block the access to a dungeon”.
That’s why rules should be adjusted in case something gets abused. That’s how all rulesets should work, that’s how you improve it if there’s hole but no… let’s just give up improving it and have grey area…
And on the other extreme of the spectrum, we have very recently had someone on these forums state that your build shouldn’t be allowed to suppress a single resource node (e.g. a freaking bush), and if it does, it’s against the rules and you should be banned.
Of course there will always be people like this, clear, straight rules should prevent that from happening, now it’s just report wars.
There’s always a grey area. That’s like half of the reason why courts and lawyers exist in the first place. The other half is that the continued efforts to eliminate that grey area result in a language so abstruse that you need to study it for years in order to understand it
But seriously, go ahead and give me the precise definition of “reckless driving”, expressed in a way that doesn’t leave any room for interpretation and doesn’t depend on anyone’s discretion.
The difference between Funcom’s rules and actual laws is that this is a videogame hosted by a private company, which means there are no courts and lawyers. And that, in turn, bothers a specific group of people who seem to expect the equivalent of the legislative and judiciary branch in a service that a private company offers for free.
I’ve been saying it since before they published any rules and I’ll keep saying it until it’s not necessary anymore: if you want high-quality server moderation executed in a timely manner, then pay for it. Right now, the only option is to rent a private server. If you want it on official servers, let’s switch to subscription model and see how well it goes down.
. So happy 18 my friend once again 
