Deacon, the reference to “magic” in this post obviously refers to food materializing magically in the inventory of your thrall. It is satire, not in any way seriously referring to magical portents, it is simply a way to express in barbs what is, obviously, criticism. No one believes there is any magic involved in this process, it’s a hyperbolic manner to express the issue with a taint of snark.
The food is coming from somewhere, I think no one here disputes that. I think I speak from all of us that although the food is certainly coming from somewhere, calling it “magical” is a figure of speech, nothing less or nothing more.
Again, I bet all of us understand the terminology, particularly the devs; finding a piece of meat in your thrall’s inventory that, albeit, had to come from somewhere, certainly seems like magic, hence the use of the word.
I know I’m beating a potentially dead horse but I have a theory. Did you have raw exquisite meat in a thrall pot or feeding trough? (regardless of distance)
I have noticed that running an Authority build and running around with two thralls, one will “Magically Manifest” shredded roast. The other thrall will not. Now what is odd is, I can be all the way across the map, I do not have or use Shredded Roast in my thrall pot. I do not have a pet feeder down and I have no Shredded Roast at my base. So it appears thralls are getting some food from somewhere, but God only knows where.
Weird that only one of the two thralls will do this and it can happen in dungeons or in open world or at base. Like I said, I have no Shredded Roast at my base at all. So where it comes from is a mystery. It is semi random, but seems once a thrall finds that magical thrall pot, they continue to draw from it.
It can also happen in single player no mods or private server with mods. It is not consistent and does not always happen, however, once it begins, and a thralls starts manifesting the food, it seems to continue with that thrall. It’s a stumper.
To be honest, I think it is random. I think they can manifest “or gather” whatever they decide they want, once it begins. I have only ever had Shredded Roast show up, so I don’t know.
When running with the thralls I have been filling their inventory with whatever I want them to eat and that seems to stop it. Empty spaces in a thralls inventory… who knows.
I was playing on Savage Wilds map. I killed the Witch Queen and she had a White Hand Warrior in her pocket. So I took it back to base and set it down, like any other thrall. That one thrall emptied my thrall pot totally. It was taking from the thrall pot and turning all the meat into rotten meat. lol Now that of course is a modded thrall so it has nothing to do with Funcom.
Vanilla thralls seem to only gather 1 piece of whatever. I have not noticed any instance where thralls would end up with stacks of Shredded Roast. It’s always one piece.
All I am saying is, thralls can be a bit mysterious no matter what map you play on, or what thralls you get. Best practice I have found is keep their inventory full, even if with partial stacks. No empty spaces in their inventory seems to solve the issue. For now.
Not my experience, but I only play SP so it might be different. Every case I had happened its always vitality /shrug; and sure, filling up yyour inventory is definitely a viable option, but at some point this is going to affect you.
Agreed. It makes maintaining their inventory kind of a pain. Do you get stacks of food manifesting or one piece at a time?
With me it’s always 1 piece.
Now that I think about it - This did not begin happening until after the last patch for me.
Is that your experience also, or did it happen before?
A single piece, every time; the bug has always been there, I have even witnessed a piece appear as I had my inventory tab open. I about soiled my boxer shorts.
Yes I was going to say, I have also seen a piece show up in their inventory right after removing the one piece and prior to closing my inventory window. lol
Sounds like we both get the same experience, your thralls just eat better than mine… or expect better. lol
Ok so my theory is based on what others were experiencing in Beta. There were reports that wandering LS thralls would teleport clear across the map. I believe this is no longer occurring but perhaps as a side effect of LS and that original bug, they’re instead drawing from the LS system - and some of those features work even with LS turned off. If I understanding correctly thralls can obtain food from multiple benches and placeables including the trough, pot and compost heap.
Whether my theory is correct or any of that is true, I am not sure. But maybe something to consider?
Good morning . For my part I have never met this bug, I know, however, that even if I had the chance to pass through, the fact that you signal this bug shows that it exists.
It is already painful to succeed in finding an NPC enslaved with the right starting stats and the good chances of progression, if in addition our enslaved NPCs used food collected by them then the leveling system of enslaved NPCs would no longer hug the players.
As @DanQuixote says this bug must be reported and corrected (with Funcom I can hopes).
It is possible that by changing a parameter of the game having nothing to do with the case keeping you, Funcom is invonlontally modified the possibility that our enslaved NPCs obtain food of all provenance.
I think that would not tighten the first time that Funcom involuntarily changed parameters by changing a line of code unrelated to the modified parameters.
The code used being strongly modified and having undergone over time additions and modifications, it should not be easy to if found and to change a line of code without repercussion on the rest of the code .
Of course, I do not try to find excuses in Funcom, not being a programmer /coder I only do the sodge of hypotheses
You could be on to something there, however, it would have to be that thralls are taking from pots not owned by the player, and that would not explain the single player occurrence.
I have no shredded roast in my base, not anywhere. feral flesh yes, shredded roast no.
So either LS thralls are getting it from the “Universe” and hence standard thralls are “randomly” doing the same. I am at a loss as to where they could possibly be getting it.
You are much smarter and follow the forums much closer than I, so maybe your theory is sound.
Like @Boulderkin said it is very annoying to say the least.
You got me thinking. The only time a thrall is in the proximity of a container owned by the player that, in my case, would contain shredded roast, is when I loot a corpse and have shredded roast in my inventory or, when I toss the shredded roast on the ground and it is in that loot bag.
I wonder if they can draw from player inventory or that loot bag?
The strangest part is: I run with two Cimmerian Berserkers and one will get a piece of shredded roast, the other one never has. Not to say it never will of course.
So in lining up with your theory, thralls that do manifest a food item, could be getting it from a player owned container - which would be, in my case, the loot bag from dropping that particular food on the ground.
I can maybe test that Theory by being careful to NOT loot shredded roast. Then see if that thrall mysteriously manifest a piece.
That’s a very good idea. The thing is, this is happening across the map from the pot, that’s what stumps me. I am convinced it’s not the pots, the characters are grabing from the environment, corpses, NPC camps, etc. Of course, it’s just a conjecture.
Anyway, I was planning to take the new thralls to UC for training, so I gave one of them steaks, the other one gruel
I took my classic round and kept checking inventories, especially after the boss fights.
I didn’t notice any food transfers, probably a random bug or the skellos don’t like to share food.
Just checked my Bartender, no gruel in her inventory. I do have gruel in my thrall pot, along with cooked steak. Bartender had cooked steak, but only two pieces.
Good idea. I turned mine down.
I do not think it is a consistent bug - meaning, I do not think it always shows up, and it does not happen with every thrall.
Once a thrall begins to grab a random piece of food, it will continue to do so - just my experience.
I’ll watch with thrall pot range turned down and not looting the shredded roast, to test @Kikigirl theory also.
