Platform: Steam
Issue Type: Gameplay
Game Mode: Single Player
Server Type: PvE
Map: Exiled Lands
Server Name: None
Mods: None
Bug Description:
Ok so, my thralls magically spawn food in their inventory. This bug is dangerous, since it completely throws off the plan you made with your stat advancement. This greater Lion keeps producing exquisite meat, and I had not harvested nor do I would ever want anything but abyssal meat, yet somehow, exquisite meat keeps appearing in its inventory, completely altering how my pet grows in stats. In the case of thralls, they magically produce Grilled Steak, having the assigned gruel, effing up my thrallsā stats.
Just to check - I assume you donāt have a āpet feed troughā down somewhere? (I often use them for storage, before Iāve got fridges, hence why I ask.) (Though, for the thralls you would also need a Thrall pot - I can imagine forgetting one, but not both, so I doubt this suggestion is likely, but still good to eliminate.)
This isnāt a bug Iāve ever encountered, so Iām not sure how I could test for it, other than just spending more time in the game (though if I do come up with something, Iāll obviously let you know). It would certainly really irritate me to have it happen. (Though, for what itās worth, Xevyr has pretty comprehensively shown that the numbers involved make very little actual difference, so youāre probably not losing a great deal - but that doesnāt stop it from being a deep irritation.)
I do not give a Bantha Poodoo what Xevyr says, this made one of my Dalinisias (90% Strenght) end up with 39 frigging strength, not the usual 45-47. This is not inconsequential, not at all.
Thralls take food from your fridge, camp fire, dryer, neighbors, and food pots.
The food isnāt āmagically appearingā they are getting it from some place you or any close neighbors have it stored.
I went back to base, Iām waiting for the lion to grab anything from the trough, he came in wounded. The trough problem exists, however, the lion was full with abysmal meat when I left base; after playing far away for a while, and after checking its inventory many times, everything was normal, then I opened its inventory to store an item and I find a chunk of exquisite meat. Unless this lion is stealing from Black Hand pirates, I would like a better explanation than the trough problem, and they would need to have exquisite meat in a trough of their own for my lion to steal it.
Deacon says I am simply looking for confirmation, heh. What, I want is for this to stop ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā my thrallās stats, jesus.
Yeah, Iām happy accepting that itās nothing to do with troughs - asked and answered as far as Iām concerned. (And the irritation is real whether the growth chance makes a significant enough difference or not - we singleplayers already lose out on some game loops, careful feeding of our followers is something some of us like as a part of the game - though Iāll also agree Iāve always felt I get better results by careful management, whatever the experts say.)
If I get some time, Iāll try wandering around to see if I can duplicate it, but this seems a really tough one to test for. Hopefully at some point Funcom return to actually picking up bug reports, but itās seeming less and less likely, which means we may be stuck without fixes for this (and everything elseā¦)
Deacon likes to talk down any bug that he isnāt personally bothered by. Just one of the reasons heās on my ignore list.
Or ones that seems to effect only a very specific person.
The OP seems to have a slew of bugs Iāve not seen any other reports of.
Or seem to be specific to a set up and playing single player.
I actually confirmed having food pop in to my thralls inventory from other sources. Iām just not buying the condensed out of thin air.
Yeah, you are always the idiot, as far as he is concernedā¦ helpful; seems more bent on castigating than offering a constructive thought. I donāt even know if he even plays the game anymore, and regurgitates what he read back when; I donāt know why he even bothers. In the end, who gives a flying flamingo F what he has to say.
This isnāt the first time this has happened, itās just that today it really irked me. This has happened with said Dalinisia at the Nameless city: I opened her inventory and out of the blue I find a grilled steak. I didnāt even have grilled steak at my base, and I doubt the inhabitants of the city have a trough lying around with Grilled Steak just to mess up my thrall.
Soo, you arenāt out after all? Listen, your putting in my mouth the whole thin air thing is rather disrespectful. I play single player, the lion was full of abysmal meat when I left the base. Far into the playthough I opened its inventory and found the exquisite meat, ok? That is what happened, and unless the dogs of the desert have fridges, coolers, troughts, or any containers my lion could have gotten that from, it sure as hell did not come from neighbors.
Oh and, @DanQuixote stated you are in his ignore list, I find it jarring you insist on replying to him.
I just need to have some one explain to me how that is possible. Iāve never denied itās coming from some where because Iāve had it happen, but I could usually find where ti came from.
The dogs of the desert do carry food and I have found it in chests, Iām not saying for sure that is where it is coming from Iām saying itās a possibility.
Iām just going to assume youāre not running a golem with a sword.
You do see he tagged me first right? Iād have ignored him like I usually do other wise.
Itās also rube to speak in tried person about some one that is right here.
You said the same thing about Xevyr who I can only wish to be as intelligent as.
You made it abundantly clear you have no respect for anyone whoās opinion doesnāt match your own.
I need someone to explain that to me too, and the fact it hasnāt happened to you does not rule out a bug.
Ok so Dogs of the desert carry food, that indeed might be an explanation. It has to be because this has happened to me on various occasions, hence the bug report. No golem. Whatās notable is that is always the food that gives vitality that seems to be stolen, if this is the case; furthermore, if your thralls and pets are grabbing food from sources around them, this is a big problem, since I am sure you understand the implications of losing potential through your thralls eating food you did not give them and hence wasting the potential of an rng round on your atribute of your choice on account of this problem, donāt you? A 90% Dalinisia with only 39 points of strength shocked the crap out of me.
I donāt see Dan tagging you other that quoting something I said, but I could be wrong.
I would also like to be as intelligent as Xevir, he is a legend, but my issue had nothing to do with troughs, that is why I said I didnāt care what he said, as I would if a famous professor said something unrelated to the topic at hand.
As for having no respect for anyone who disagrees with me: who disagrees with me? I have stated things as they happened, then you speak about neighbors, knowing full well I play single Player because it says so in the report, made it abundantly clear you did not know what I was talking about. I stated a case, spoke clearly about the conditions in which the bug took place; and only because I disagree with your point, which was flawed since you were apparently confused about what I was saying, does not mean I refute all voices that correct me, as you yourself have witnessed in more than one occasion. You will think as you will, but what is my argument? I wrote a bug report and stated that the cases presented to me were not convincing at all, such as me having neighbors, for Peteās sake. I discarted the factors that did not match the conditions of the bug. If you want to call that whatever it is you call it, go ahead, but me telling you something doesnāt apply is not, in any way concievable, a fault.
Iām just bummed, man. The times you have to run the Dreggs for the damned abyssal meat, and then a chunk of meat appears in their inventory and effs everything up, specially with pets that are remarkably low on strenght, like elephants, rhinos, and most others; particularly the ones that require abyssal meat. Seriously, I left the base full, ended up at the Black Galleon training the lion; suddenly I open his stats to see how he is progressing and needed a change of boxer-shorts when I saw a @#$%* exquisite meat blocking the abyssal meatā¦ man that made me swear out loud.
It is also important to mention my wording was not kind or edifying; but when this happened again, involving something like abyssal meat, something broke loose and I did not comunicate in a civilized manner, and for that, I apologize.
Letās turn the page, shall we? Letās start over and forget about this, a pipe of peace was rejected, I should perhaps have offered a shot of Stolichnaya? I do not know you, or anything about your life, but I think we are just a pair of grumpy old men.
No, you are correct, I do not tag people that are on my ignore list, I simply responded to you because I could see you were getting what many people get from the same person that does it over and over - unending argument about something that they know nothing about but are still determined to present themselves as the ultimate arbiter of reality.
As to the actual topic -
The only way that could be an explanation would be if followers have somehow been granted the ability to loot corpses without player intervention. To the best of my knowledge that has never been a part of this game (it happens to some extent in Ark, perhaps that is what someone is getting mixed up). Therefore it would still be a bug and you would still be correct to have reported it. In this game (unlike Ark), as you have rightly pointed out, it matters what food goes into a followerās inventory - therefore it would be a meaningful failure of the game systems for this to happen without player intervention. (It matters irrespective of whether you and I are right about the perceived impact or not - the game option exists to allow players to control the diets fed to followers in order to impact the numbers. A bug that interferes with that system is interfering with player agency. Ultimately that is what matters, whether or not the difference in final numbers has any meaningful impact on the followrās ultimate power. I remeber people years back trying to reassure me regarding a follower - she had been the first Iād ever found with a 100% growth chance in strength (and good vit), Iād levelled her with care and done everything I could to max that strentgh, then she hit level 20 and got one of those āperksā that minused her strength for accuracy (the old archery stat, which was completely worthless for fighters) - it didnāt matter that she was still good, or that the points ādidnāt make that much difference overallā as others kept telling me - I was still disappointed. And thatās what matters with this bug in the same way.)
Rightly so. Suggesting neighbours/other players once as a possibility (while evidence of not having read the bug report) is not an unreasonable suggestion - but you were able to correctly eliminate that option. I suggested feed trough (again, a plausible cause) - you were able to eliminate that because it has happened while far from base, so even if there was a piece of exquisite flesh in a trough that you had forgotten about, it would require the range to cover the map. As far as I can see that leaves a bug - especially given that this is something that you have experienced with more than one follower.
Iāve also realised another point as to why I might not have encountered this, despite also being a singleplayer - I mostly feed followers for Vitality anyway, so if all of the mystery food is Vitality food, I might simply not have noticed. (I wouldnāt tend to feed Dalinsia for Vit, but itās been a long while since I last levelled a Dalinsia and this bug could easily have been introduced since I last did.)
Again reasonable - I brought up Xevyr as an attempt to reassure that the impact of the bug should be small - though both you and I perceive the impact to be greater than others might suggest. It certainly wasnāt meant to discount or dispute the bugās existence, nor should you disagreeing with what I mentioned be taken as dismissing Xevyrās work. All of those options would be someone taking a simple passing statement and trying to make far more of it than should be.
Having had the same thing happen with archers I can sympathies, but I just try to keep their pockets full even if I have to leave rotten food. Itās just Iāve know for a while thralls will get food from places other then the food pot. They will take it from dryers, camp fires, fridges, and neighbors food pots.
Yeah, I need to keep my thralls full, thatās what I did when I saw this, thralls and pets. I agree with you it has to come from somewhere, not out of thin air, the question, I think, is not where they are just grabbig food from other sources, I think the issue is simply they should not, big NO NO on my book.
