It’s not really censorship when it’s a consumer’s personal choice whether or not to see blood or boobs. If anything, it would open the product to a wider target audience.
Some people want to play the game but don’t want to see nudity. They can play with nudity off. (Do note that they might still want to see blood and dismemberment.)
Some players want to play the game but don’t want to see blood and dismemberment. With a toggle, they could play with gore off. (Do note that they might still want to see boobage, which is why this should be a separate toggle.)
Some people want to see nudity and bloody dismemberment. They can still see nudity and bloody dismemberment even if someone else toggles the options off on their own screens.
Some people want to play the game but don’t want to see nudity or bloody dismemberment. They could toggle both features off.
Everyone can play the game the way they like. Everyone wins.
For some, I’m not sure it ever will sink in. There seem to be a few people determined to be extremely angry at the idea of other people having a choice. Mostly that seems to involve not reading and/or not taking any time to think about what is actually being said, before deciding that they are offended by the idea of anyone being allowed to play ‘their’ game without also being forced to worship the ‘realism’ of explosive dismemberment being caused by hitting someone with a rock on a stick.
Perhaps they’ve read some secret Conan story, which is missing from my complete collection, which outlines clearly why humans (and only humans) are so excessively fragile in the Conan mythos, and what force lives within them that seeks always to propel their limbs (or half their body) 20 feet away the moment life leaves them?
The game literally has a toggle for nudity, it’s not about turning off gore altogether, it’s about giving gore a toggle, like nudity.
The only thing offensive about what you’ve said here is that you didn’t read about what is being asked, you just assumed that it’s a post about censoring gore altogether.
Thus far, yes. The target audience is mainly Conan fans, and nudity and violence have always been a part of that world. But does it need to limit itself to that? A broader audience would mean more players, more money for the company, etc. The original fans could still enjoy their boobs and gore.
The Conan comics didn’t show nudity (at least the ones I’ve seen - it’s amazing how the lighting always works so that Valeria’s nipples remain in the shadows and unseen in the comic version of Red Nails) even though they had lots of violence. They were still pretty popular. Conan Exiles has a nudity toggle, and many people do actually play the game with glued-on underwear on their characters. This strongly suggests that Conan can survive and be popular without both nudity and violence.
And unlike comic books, the game can actually have options for everyone. A comic book would either have visible nipples or not - the reader cannot chose between the two. Same with gore. A game can have options for both.
I don’t care that we don’t agree, but yes, the translation seemed off and it seemed like you weren’t reading what was being said.
I personally don’t mind the gore or nudity, but I support the idea of the toggles because I think it’s always a good thing to reach a broader audience. The toggles don’t affect what I want at all.
I don’t see the harm in giving people options, and I’ve never really understood the mentality of not wanting that for other people. It seems selfish.
It is an unnecessary option to give. The game is violent and has nudity you know this before you buy or play the game.
Toggles for broader audience seems like a shot in the dark, if this really keeps someone from playing… (I don’t think more people will play if the options are given).
Simple, everyone should have the same immersion. Hide options make immersion for everyone different.
Players can have wildly different graphics settings, to suit their preference and performance. Players can skip cut scenes and NPC dialogue. Players can choose to completely ignore the storyline. Players can choose their nudity level. Players can choose to roleplay, or ignore the setting and lore altogether.
Why is gore the only thing that must have no choice for people to have the same immersion?
Fair enough, that’s your view, but you do realize that the gore settings aren’t sync’d up, right? One person could see your head fly off, another might see you flopped to the ground in a blood pool, to another person your hands may have blown off.
Your immersion isn’t lined up with other players regardless of the toggle.
Exiles exploding is unnecessary. But thats what great about this game. It has such a high level of customization, this will not be an unwelcome addition
Player with gore yes + Player with gore yes = same immersion
Player with gore yes + Player with gore no = different immersion
Again: why is gore the only thing necessary for immersion? IF players with different gore levels have different immersion, then surely players with any different settings have different immersion? Why is different gore any different from different nudity, different render distance, different texture quality, different gamma settings, or anything else?
Even as things are now, with full gore, OTT thrall deaths are all client-side, so two players standing next to each other don’t even see the body and it’s parts land in the same place - which often leads to watching while your friend walks 10 feet away to hit the ground with his skinning knife, only to see the body at your feet disappear; is this your idea of immersion?
The repeated arguments being made that ‘lack of gore destroys immersion’ or ‘removing gore (at the players own choice) is censorship’ are illogical, and never backed up, so why do people keep making them?
So, your assertion is that we can’t have a gore toggle, because it would remove immersion which (by your own assertion) we already don’t have. You are against making the game better for other people, without changing current immersion at all, because you wish there was ‘better’ (by your standards) immersion - which is never going to happen.
