Not defending funcom by absolute terms will bite you in the ass absolutely.
Opinions are not facts.
And funcom doesn’t make my bottom ten games.
Only if they do more updates.
Nobody said this is a “bottom ten game”. If it were, I doubt any of us would be here.
I said it is one of the most incompetently maintained games in the history of gaming.
There is/was something truly special about CE and it could have been great if it were handled more competently by a team that was at least on the same planet as their playerbase.
Most of us are here despite everything the dev team has done to this game, not because of it.
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I’m stupid ! Glad I didn’t hold my breath hoping the couple of things I wished were fixed are, even if it’s what we’ve been begging for years/months (server list at least I mean c’mon) 
what happened to zendesk too ?
I can crash a server trying to kill a thrall still 
Zendesk has been replaced with a new Help Centre - https://funcom.helpshift.com/hc/en/5-conan-exiles/contact-us/ - but there are already reports that is not working so 
As for the rest of it - the main fixes were all released at the end of last month - this hotfix was explicitly for fixing new issues caused by the main patch - as stated in the post at the top of this thread when it was announced and also stated when they released the hotfix. Everything else will presumalby have to wait for the next major update, just like it does every time. It’s disappointing sure, but it’s also exactly the same way it works everytime.
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I have not read the thread since I last commented but there was no notes at the time. Just kind of hoped at lease server list was fixed but nvm. Not shocked at all
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If that “hotfix” came 2, 3, maybe 5 days after the update (patch), there would have been nothing to “complain” about it…
Literally taking a month to fix 4 issues that can’t take more than a few hours to take care of (loot issues for certain items) is what is outragious.
However, everybody at FUNCOM is working hard to release DUNE, but somehow they pretend they have a dedicated team for Conan Exiles…no they don’t and the time it took to release this 4 issue “hotfix” is proof of that.
But letting them know, pretty sure though that none of this outrage actually reaches them anyhow, that we are not complete gullible idiots, at least soothes my soul.
Are you really that gullible to believe there is more than one person working on CE, while they had to postpone the DUNE release? During that crunch-phase of DUNE release, NOBODY is working on CE, at least full time.
I can fully understand that even. What I can’t understand is why they pretend otherwise.
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Still just an opinion.
It’s still there but I do not see where funcom’s development of this game has actually changed that much. I quit after 2.2 or 2.3 when we got yet another crap update that didn’t fix anything we had been complain about and added nothing to the game. That was 4 years ago, I came back for Sorcery. This is funcom SOP and why funcom is a verb
“man they really funcomed that”.
There are some terms unique to gaming.
When some one shouts “Leeroy Jenkins” what is about to happen?
If some one “thicked” the party what does that mean?
And if someone “funcom’s” something, we know what that means as well.
And many of you would be straight up incompetent then. Not caring what words mean show a willing ignorance that is, frankly, inexcusable. And look at where willing ignorance has gotten our world around us this day an age.
It’s nice to call things “facts” when you have no raw data to back them up with. 
However, I would agree that “most” people who join the forum do so for that reason. What percentage, who know. 
There are quite a few on the other hand who come here for no purpose other than to spread misinformation, be completely dishonest and push the most absurd narratives possible because they, frankly, refuse to every see beyond the tiny little cardboard box they have backed themselves into (figuratively speaking, not a literal cardboard box obviously). So they come here for no purpose other than to troll threads and get them shut down, or to make absurdly idiotic comments that are misinformed, disingenuous, and knowingly dishonest.
So, regardless of whether or not someone understand what the difference between an update and a hotfix is, which I am fairly certain most people do know the difference is, the person I was responding to ABSOLUTELY did know the difference. They went out of their way to reference the fact that the Age/Chapter system was put on pause for the MARCH UPDATE, which came out last month, and included a crap ton of fixes, and then attempted to claim that said update was, in fact, THIS HOTFIX. They knew for a fact that it was not. The very first post on this thread even stated that it was A). A hotfix, B). Addressing last months patch C). “this is a smaller update, but part of our continued focus this year on fixing bugs” and that D). “More is on the way in a future update”. They knew all of this and STILL they went out of their way to misrepresent what this hotfix was, claiming that this was “The update”, while ignoring the fact that we already received the update last month, and going on a rant about how the Age/Chapter system was temporarily shut down for “four bug fixes”. They straight up lied and they knew that they lied.
So, when someone is going to be this blatantly dishonest and misrepresent reality, I am going to call out their BS. If you have a problem with that, then I suppose that says a whole lot more about you than it does about anyone else.
Now on to Raudl… oh wow, what a brilliant mind we have here…
Perhaps you forgot your glasses, or perhaps you just need to brush up on your reading comprehension skills. At either rate, Mr. Potato’s entire rant was a complete and utter fabrication. A deliberate deception in which he straight up claimed that this APRIL 22ND Hotfix was THE UPDATE that Funcom put the Age/Chapter system on hold for, fully aware that we already received the first update LAST MONTH which contained a crap ton of fixes. This has nothing to with “taking a month to fix 4 things”, this has to do with Mr. Potato being deliberately deceitful, aka, a lair and knowingly so. He bloody well knew that the main update came out last month, he also knew that it contained a rather large amount of fixes. He also knew that in the very first post of this thread it clearly states what this hotfix is, and that there is yet to be another large update of fixes to come later in the year. He knew ALL OF THIS, and he still knowing LIED about it all. So Raudl, please explain to me again what is “outrageous”? 
And just in case you didn’t read it the first time (because it’s fairly obvious to EVERYONE that you didn’t), I’ll copy it here for you.
Can you wrap your mind around that? Can you honestly, in good faith, sit there and read this and then ask such a moronic question as this?
Because if you truly think that you can, you are delusional.
And to anyone who is actually reading this thread, isn’t it interesting how Mr. Potato has not once bothered to address the fact that he has completely misrepresented the facts in his post. He refuses to own up to his lies and just keeps prattles on as if the facts had not been pointed out for everyone to see. Just ignores reality and moves the goal posts further and further. He had no legitimate reason to join this post other than to spread misinformation, to be dishonest in order to push his narrative of “funcom is the worst!”. This is not one of those people that would be in Keldy’s “80%”.
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you know why it doesn’t make a difference to me?
because after 3 months of work the patch has fixed practically nothing, on the contrary it has only made some bugs worse.
It took a month to make a hotfix that “fixed” 5 things
this way the game will be fine - given the amount of identified bugs - sometime at the end of the century
while there are literally dozens of bugs that can be easily fixed (and often players here have directly written how) that could add to one or the other
so to make a long story short - for me it’s more about FC not just having Bob to fix things every other Thursday but really start fixing the game.
Even just the simple fixes that take a little time would solve a lot of problems and i guess players would appreciate that.
Not the current approach of FC not giving a shit about the game
PS where did you get the 80%?
Oh ok, so you are going to sit here and lie as well. Gotcha.
IDK, what sure looks like a WHOLE LOT OF NOTHING to me.
But sure, you keep on claiming that “practically nothing” was fixed in March.
Cool, go apply for a job there and start fixing them!
Uh…right there…
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While I broadly agree with this sentiment, it is worth remembering that no Funcom hotfix ever comes out in the first few days after a patch, it is always a matter of a couple of weeks or more. My suspicion would be that part of this time is the duration of the necessary certification process for consoles (in this case just PS, since XBox certification seems to be taking longer this time around).
This hotfix is more delayed than usual, and addresses fewer issues than usual - your hypothesis that this is because the delay to Dune is an ‘all hands on deck’ situation seems reasonably likely. We do not have to be impressed by the hotfix, and it is not unreasonable to complain about it, within the context of what it is. But much of the complaint about it seems to be noise based on a failure to read or understand the announcements themselves - let alone the misrepresentation of this hotfix as if it is the patch itself (which it clearly was not). THe ‘noise’ is unhelpful as it is something that Funcom will understand as bad faith complaints and therefore rightly ignore - with the result that it obscures the good faith complaints and increases the odds that they too will be ignored.
If we want our complaints to stand a chance of being heeded, then they must be based in truth, and not in misrepresentation. Even moreso than normal given that Funcom is clearly heavily focused on Dune at this point. If we want fixes to continue, then we cannot claim that none have been made - they know that to be untrue. That does not mean that we have to be satisified with what we get, but the legitimate issues cannot be buried under a tide of ranting, or there is little chance that the legitimate issues will ever get addressed.
That is simply untrue on several levels. FIrstly, the patch was six months after the previous update, not three. Secondly, the patch resolved many issues. It may not have resolved the issues you most wanted it to (it didn’t resolve many of the issues I most wanted it to), but that does not mean that it ‘fixed practically nothing’ - perhaps you should go back to the patchnotes for the March update and review the extensive list of fixes that were included.
This is exactly the sort of bad faith claims that are the problem. By making a false claim, you invalidate your own completely valid other concerns - as well as burying more rational complaints under a tide of useless noise. At this point I am forced to wonder if some people are actually trying to ensure that there are fewer fixes in future by giving Funcom every reason to ignore us. I would not have put you in that category, I thought you were being more rational than some - perhaps it is just your frustration talking, in which case maybe you need to take a step back and reconsider your approach.
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Excellently put. I mean, it took me seconds to post the extensive list of fixes from the march update which completely invalidated their claim of “practically nothing” which, considering I even linked the patch notes up above (as well as the hotfix notes) there really is no excuse to make such an obviously false claim other than to be willfully deceptive.
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Yeah you’re probably right , I’m slightly annoyed at FC’s unwillingness to simply stop my crafters dying slowly - well slow it was before the “fix” patch , that accelerated it to a level where they were simply dying faster than they could be replaced.
(It could be stopped simply by disabling this feature on the official servers , which is what a not so small group of players here are calling for)
and yes I can change my approach now , FC helped this by making a “hotfix” which was supposed to fix the aforementioned massacre and which I was waiting for in the hope of saving the last few thralls didn’t solve the problem
sorry , here the mistake is really on my side and I reacted without going through your post properly, when I translated and read it all I realized it but you have already reacted in the meantime
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It’s OK, no problem. 
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Really appreciated 
And I’m right there with you in calling for Funcom to turn off Living Settlements on officials, and in frustration that they are (for no rational reason) refusing to do so (even if I am not suffering from the burden of it in the same way - as a singleplayer I can switch it off for myself, which is the only reason I did not lose a t4 today (the only one I have currently since in this playthrough I am only gathering followers by rescue, not enslavement, and I went through hell getting this one back alive, only to watch him immediately attempt to walk out of the base - I changed the setting immediately - I wish you guys had the same option)). Believe me, I can understand your frustration and wish only that there could be a proper resolution soon.
Yeah, that was a big disappointment, and should have been followed by immediately switching off the feature when it became clear the fix had failed (actually, it should have been switched off earlier and not switched back on until they were certain of the fix). As I have said over in that thread, it is totally unacceptable that they have and still are allowing this situation to continue. That’s why I tagged Andy in my last post in that thread. I think he needs to carry the message to whoever is making the decision here that this situation is beyond a bad joke and by refusing to switch the system off despite knowing that the issue is far from resolved they are p*ssing off even those not directly affected.
Just an inquiry as it seems to be a point for a few people…
How long after an update is it considered a window for a “Hot fix”?
At how many days or weeks does it because tepid or cold fix, or just, despite marketing itself as a “hotfix” is it just an update?
As this one understands it, there are two components to a hot fix:
- Servers are not taken down/there is no interruption in continuity of activity when implemented. The system continues running/live.
- It is released with alacrity and urgency. Both outside of the normal schedule and quickly.
Indeed the terminology of ‘hotfix’ is one that (as you know) has always been somewhat questionable in reference to Conan Exiles. (Even more so given that this one seems to have been delayed slightly longer than usual.) But nonetheless it provides a clear distinction between the two different types of update with two different intents. In Funcom terminology, an Update or Patch is the full deal, while a Hotfix, however delayed, is just a small update focused on specific issues raised from the preceding main patch. (Tepid-fix might indeed be a more apt term, but it is not exactly the sort of terminology to be expected in any corporate lexicon.)
In simple terms it is a label applied by Funcom to the type of fix, not its immediate ‘heat’. To shift the label back to update, even if it might be more accurate in terms of the understood meaning in the wider industry, blurs the line between the two types of update. Which would lead to more of the sorts of conflict this thread has been hosting…
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It was like the game the kids in stranger things would play. In the basement
A D&D style board game
But Funcom has just reached, and they are helping resolve this matter.
Yes I believe it’s the same
Thank you. I was looking for it too
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