How does it work lol the thrall gets xp for the kills i make while he’s following me or does he only get lvls for what he kills lol ive thought it was both ways but not sure anymore lol so i figured id ask someone who knows for sure an bonus question. Maybe fastest may to lvl a thrall to twenty in isle of siptah map
It doesn’t matter who makes the kill. As long as the thrall is following you, it gets the xp.
Here’s the best resource available on thralls:
I actually might have to update that with the XP portion a bit, cuz recently I’ve been asked about XP specifically for the wiki and I double-checked.
What you said above is true though, you would get XP regardless of who makes the kill, however the amount might vary based on whether only the thrall attacked the NPC, only you attacked it… or both.
Basically the jest of it is that if more than one attacker hit the target, the XP pool of that enemy would be increased by 25% for each attacker and then divided by the number of attackers before being sent out.
Example… if nobody else is around… and you AND your thrall were both hitting the enemy who is worth 5000 XP
That would mean there were 2 attackers… you and your thrall…
Edit:
Corrected below, only players get on the attacker list, so that would still be a single attacker.
in that case the total XP would be 150% (100% + 25% per attacker) but divided by 2… so 75%.
However your thrall would gain the full amount from your share… and you would gain the full amount from the thrall’s share… which would then be transferred back to the thrall again, essentially both of you gaining 150% of the amount so 7500 XP for that target…
If however the enemy was hit by you OR the thrall and a second, unrelated player… that would result in 3750 for both you and your thrall… (XP is always routed through the player first and all following thralls gain the same amount).
Ofc if there was no second attacker and either you OR the thrall single-handedly killed the target, you would both get the 100% 5000 XP
So anyway this is what it looks like in theory, looking at the code, but I have to do some actual tests while monitoring the values to see who actually makes it on to that attacker list etc.
@stelagel taught me a long ago that the more players involved in killing a npc, the less xp we would each gain, something you now confirmed.
But ONE player helping his thrall gives 150% xp to both you and the thrall.
Just the thrall or just you killing the target, means each gains 100% xp.
So helping the thrall (while having no other players helping) seems to be the faster way to level it.
Is this correct, @Xevyr ?
Do you mind actually testing it, @Xevyr ?
I got the same result whether I took part in the fight or not (the thrall gained the same amount of xp).
I just did
I figured there would be some twist thrown into the mix, since I was under the same impression.
So here’s the twist… ONLY players can make it on that attacker list. If a thrall kills an NPC unassisted, then the player who the thrall is following will make it on to that list.
Which results in what you just said, that as long as there is no other player involved, the XP would be 100% for both the player and the thrall
Only if there is a second player would it then split 75% - 75%
It also means the guide’s still good
If a clan goes for xp farming they should give at least one hit all of them. So the old bosses that called hp sponge were really handy in this case. In my clan i was always getting first lvl 60 because i was choosing farming points for resources that i both harvest and kill at the same time. That’s why i was mr brimstone, (getting xp both from harvesting and killing) brimstone lake is a place that i visited so many times in my pvp experience that i don’t use it much in my pve sessions.
Until chapter 3 it’s the player that must give a hit, the thralls don’t. I know it really well because i train almost all my thralls before they even touch anything.
One thing i don’t know however is this.
When i am lvl 60, does my thrall gain all the xp?
When i am not, do we share it?
You do understand that i don’t have the option to measure these things.
Thank you in advance @Xevyr.
Ps. Now the best harvesting xp is gained from black ice like no other.
It gains the same amount as before.
So no, you’re not sharing it, the way it works is that all XP is handled by the player.
When a follower makes a kill, it just notifies the player that they killed a target… it’s the same as if the player themselves killed it.
Then as the player gets the XP it also sends out a “copy” of the amount to every single thrall following them at the moment.
Hopefully that makes sense… so in other words the thrall killing an enemy doesn’t actually get any XP immediately… it just tells the player “Hey, I killed THIS npc and this is our XP share percentage”
Then the player is the one who gains the XP for themselves, but also approves the identical amount for all followers
If the player is already max level, they ofc can’t advance in levels anymore, but it will still send out the exact copy of each XP that either they gain or one of the followers sends to them for “processing”.
TLDR:
if a target is worth 500 XP, both you and the thrall will get 500 XP each… if you already reached max level, then your thrall will still only get 500 XP
Thanks a million .
Mrs Jones can level a thrall on an official server in hours.
We now play with 100 level thralls on modded servers.
it takes months. Same leveling points as official, just a heck of a lot more are needed.
If the server has the Thrall War mod (and many servers have it), then 5 minutes is enough. Just find the Jargrim boss and let your thralls kill him. At the time of his death, the thralls are pumped up to level one hundred.
There is only one condition: the player himself cannot even touch this boss.
Thanks, Mrs Jones is gonna love this
Still would! The only downside is that in the process of mathematical calculations that occur during instant leveling, bonuses from nutrition are not taken into account.
But all thralls who touch the boss in battle are guaranteed to receive full leveling, regardless of what level they were at before the battle.
That matters only for a few sellect thralls you want to have ultra maxed, @Teng
For the grunts, frak it. They are meat for the grinder!
If you can lvl them in one go, do it!
The funny thing is that now most named thralls at level 100 have approximately the same vitality that they usually had 3-4 years ago at level 20.
Neither one of our servers have that mod, it must be another one too.
Dag nab it.
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