I need your help - Is base like this reportable?

That is 100% bannable even if it was half the size imo. Tbh most bases are bannable if a player is determined enough to get rid of you.

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Amen, sis. ;(

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That is the thing I am worried about.

If someone really wants to, they can be heard by the authorities.

So far I reported only one player, who built 20 foundations high wall with fences on the top on the way to the Breach (north) and left no pass by gate for others there.

It took one week, at the end that clan built a Gate in the wall (still not enough for that enormous land claim so wide, that whoever wants to get to the other side, has to run a while until they find the passway.

Everything of that clan got deleted after that, even the buildings which were not connected to the blockwall.

I thought they will remove only the wall.

Clear the bridge and build with purpose, @Archivist . If you’re playing pvp, be extra careful.

PvE-C :slight_smile: And so far no one said anything about it, like they mind this to be there.

But I would not like to come to the server And finding out that everything from my stuff was wiped. I try to build stuff for the others, and with the options we have now there is not much to do, besides outposts like that.

Usually maprooms are not a problem, but other than that, be careful, @Archivist .

Seems like you have build a lot of stuff on official all over the map and you excuss it with: I help people with building lights and brigdes and fireplaces. You should consider that official servers are not your personal playground. Other people might not be so happy about your little “helpers”. They feel you are trying to own the server with all that builds that do not really have a purpose to “them” other then blocking paths that should stay open.

If you want to build with no limits go Singleplayer or rent a server. There you can build as much as you want.

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The go to single player advice goes both ways. If you don’t want people building as they please you can just go to single player.

The idea of something needing to be built with purpose is subjective too. For instance if I take a path frequently and build a staircase, that has purpose but is bannable. Someone building 10 animal pens horizontally to create a gold farm also has purpose. But it’s a huge waste of space for more than one reason, and maybe isn’t bannable. The staircase bothers me a lot less than the animal pen farms, and takes up less landclaim.

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Another point in the “ban meta” category right here.

They will indeed report your friend solely due to that reason, yes. There are people like that in this game who take joy out of ruining others gameplay.

Its been well documented by Funcom the amount of pieces and size of the base does not matter.

Now, does your friend have alot of placeables, like torches and other cosmetic items? Tell him to reduce those if he wants to be safe. Those items can cause more issues then base pieces now.

Besides that, ignore the trolls, screenshot them saying they will mass report the base and worst case, report them for harassment (though if it was me, Id laugh at them and ignore them).

Unfortunately, Funcom finds this to be bannable. Yes, its incredibly stupid for them to think that way, to punish people for building, but its their call. All we can do is sit back and laugh at them for banning people for building.

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I joke :stuck_out_tongue:

No. Officials are made for everyone who wants to play the game, not just for you. You can not build as you please, because you are not the only one playing on that server. Its not your personal server. Nobody forbids you building but you can not have it all for yourself.

If everyone would start building staircases and elevators, fireplaces and torches everywhere just to have a smoth pathing or lightning soon the whole map would become a big no build zone. You are blocking building areas for other people to build on and that is the reason why you can get banned for it.

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If you build without keeping others playing in mind, you eventually will be enforced on. It’s just a matter of when you cross the line you are blatantly ignoring.

Official servers are like public pools and there are rules that you have to abide by to ensure all can enjoy the pool. If that is too stringent for you, go to a private pool.

As for clear black and white rules in the ToS…lets go back to the public pool analogy. There are rules to no running and no diving…and yet not one person is going on about what precisely is running vs brisk walking or jumping in vs diving. Why is that?

Also enforcement can vary depending on various reasons. Kids forgetting where they are will be different than some jerk that consistently cannonballs in the pool just to get others outside of the pool wet. Also guilt by association happens all the time and getting kicked out because you are with a group that is causing trouble happens.

The public pool seems to function well with this nebulous enforcement and vague set of rules…weird that it works for the general public and specifically kids but gamers can’t seem to understand it.

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I did not build “a lot of stuff”. I built my main base and two bridge outposts…

Srsly people who write there at least read what I’ve said. The screenshots are screenshots of MY FRIEND’S BASE. We are in another clan and both alone in that clan.

If this game is about subjectively stating that your freedom ends where I build something which you personally find bad without any reasonable reason besides the one that you want to have those places dull, blank and the same as on the other servers, then I don’t know.

Me myself like when the map doesn’t look like empty copy of another server and when the builds don’t block access to anything important, I can’t see why some people would see claiming some perfectly go through area as something bad.

Or is it about the others would like to claim it themselves just because, and in that case it would be alright? :slight_smile:

As was stated by another person here, the same can apply for those who want the server be empty or claimed only by them, they can go play SP as well.

Rules are pretty straightforward and understood for a pool though. Don’t splash, don’t run, don’t cannonball, whatever.

But when you have a rule such as “don’t walk backwards” that isn’t stated and you get kicked out without being told why or that you could correct it for 2 weeks and watch everyone else still enjoying the pool, it kinda feels unjustified.

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@Archivist,

Listen, I am big fan of building. I have build a ton of stuff over the years. Brigdes, caves, castles, villages, big trader outposts, whole medieval and ancient cities. But I do that stuff on my own private server or servers that are explicitly made for the purpose of building stuff like that. I play on servers where people see the value in building and appreciate it and do not feel disturbed by thoose.

I have played on a ton of official servers since 2018, pve, pve-c, pvp. And all had the same problems for years, blocked of npc camps, obelisks, hotspots like the brimstone lake. Massive walls and bases build over several grids. Staircaises and elevators all across the map. Something had to be done to stop that. The lord knows I am no fan of the Tos and people who know me in the forums know that. We had hard discussion about it. But if people on officials are to stubborn to behave like adults then sorry the only thing the devs can do is regulate.

I would love to see offical server working without all the rules and regulations. But thats dream thinking.

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I’m fully aware of the terms of service. The issue is my definition of excessive is different than yours, OPs, and every other player in the game. Having the people monitoring servers make decisions purely as a judgement call is poor server management.

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Everything is a judgement call because there is no set of rules that is 100% objectively defined.

Ok, so these are my bridge outposts.

The Betrayer one has big land claim, just paved ground, perfectly go-through for anyone and with the fireplaces in the middle:



Before I wanted to give it some nice walls and ceiling with stormglass gates , but now I am not so sure if it’s worth it, if even something like this colides with some player’s personal freedom.

The volcano bridge:


I built it with the vision players will appreciate it.

For Winthor: Played on two private servers, on which the owners eventually decided it’s not worth it anymore and I lost everything I built there, cause they removed those servers.

To have my own one: Tried once, no people came after two months, I deleted that one too.

What are some private servers to, when everyone there knows you can spam anything you want and build there, so it’s not really earned? Where people are sceptic about owners playing there, because they can cheat as admins? As well, we have to pay another money (regularly) for doing what should be allowed on officials and what is this game about, via getting own servers and hoping people would join?

This game is about building. We do not have any official statement about maximum claim size. If devs lets us build on those places, who decides who can build at them and who can not?

I understand your point, but still not helping me in this matter whatsoever.

To your mentioned:

//And all had the same problems for years, blocked of npc camps, obelisks, hotspots like the brimstone lake. Massive walls and bases build over several grids.// This is problem, because it is against the rules.

//Staircaises and elevators all across the map.// I can not see in what manner is this a problem? If that was all just landclaim and foundations spam, I would not say a word. But elevators and staircases help others as well. Maybe only if it’s really crowded, people are glued to each other’s claims and the whole map looks like one building factory full of whatever. But our server is not that case and I hope It would not become one in future.

I can’t speak for other systems but for PS, this would get enforced on and he is why. PS4 load times is measured in minutes without additional player-supplied rendering issues and having about 30 or so light sources right at an obelisk is just asking for 10 minutes load times and stuttering when it does load in for 15 more seconds.

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So the lights are really the main problem? The same as the braziers? If so, there is no need for the paving the volcano bridge, did it only so I could put some lighting there, so others see the way to the maproom better.

sigh

Had no idea this could do more harm than good. :frowning: