If people thinks AOC is empty, here a proof it's not

here my pcloud stats where i hosted some AOC UI & the number (600+/month) of downloads :slight_smile:

it’ makes me laugh. every week i receive same email with these stats i just looked …

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here my hosted UI forever ’ topik…

  • i added well, reshade settings from may, 21…

OK pvp server is dead, 20 players… but CROM PVE SERVER ???

there are dozens of us! dozens!

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I’m a pretty new player, but I can confirm that Tortage is pretty popping. There’s usually at least 20-30 folks on at any one time, I’m not sure what the peak is. Frankly, it feels like there’s more than that, lots of bustle and activity.

Loving the game.

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This game is #deadaf

pCloud

L’activité hebdomadaire de vos liens de partage

Votre lien de partage avec la meilleure performance a été AOC avec un trafic de 992.1 MB et 122 téléchargements.

Le trafic total de vos liens de partage pendant la semaine a été 998.1 MB.

Voir l’intégralité des statistiques pour les 30 derniers jours

i get this same email, weekly :))))))

i came DAY ONE from pvp servers… was hard to fight sometimes, sometimes was pure dope EATIN YOUR HEART etc…

at end i reached PVP lvl 2 with help of Keschatta fights GUILDS PVP…

i swapped to PVE CROM Recently after “Sagas i dont care really”…

i reached T2 T3 T4 gears…

PvP is rare & its unbalanced in minigames as you all PVP LVL 10…

I PURPOSE, as angry day-1 AOC dude, ::::::

FREE KESCHATTA PVP ZONE.

^^

@AndyB plz bro…

to stay on topik,

mosts players do their stuffs their tings in their side,

but generally , all MASSIVE players are messing with RAIDS, WORLD BOSSES…

pvp server we left, we regrouped on “Crom” server !

We can all blame the lack of content for lack of population but this isn’t the case.

The problem is that from 100% Players who will try AoC and its unique Combat System:

  1. Up to 50% will leave after seeing that the World after Tortage is Quest/ XP/ Mob Grind but lacks Highly Developed In Character Deep Storyline like you find in RPG games.
    (Yes its an MMO. Secret World is also an MMO but go ahead and see its Storyline and Immerse your Character while you try to unravel its world).

  2. Alot of Details here:

  • Up to 40% will leave after they cleared T3. Why? Leveling and clearing out Old World Dungeons even Expansion Questlines ‘‘Once’’ is good and Clearing out T1 or T2 and Gearing up as well is fast enough in terms of ‘‘Token Requirements’’ it prepares you for T3, you clear it out, you don’t mind repeating it a few times and Gear Aquisition is fast enough plus a nice Storyline evolving based around ‘‘You’’ the Character.
    So in short you have Leveling/ AA/ Gear Progression/ Skill/ Story tied perfectly together.

  • Turan is another Trip to do some stuff in a similar way. Then you have Khitai. You don’t mind to Progress the Faction Storyline and get a few Equipment as a reward and purchasing a few and clear the Dungeons Once/ Twice/ Thrice or so.
    Then you have T4. You will do it a few times get a few drops and relics 3-4 items, done.

Who wants to repeat T4 for Months to buy a full set and Weapons? Why can’t we convert some T3 Relics to T4 like we did with T1 to T2 to T3? (There would be no need for Raidfinder Relic drops either).
Some classes are lucky since with Turan they can get what they need to do content in Dragonspine (Although people overestimate Critigation too much ‘‘You don’t need a full set necessarilly’’ but you still have the Excavator factions gear that are nice fillers.
The only Requirement is AA.
You have to work for more AA. Its not the amount that’s the problem but ‘‘The Time’’ and that’s only for Chaos. Should i even mention T5 and Relic drop Rate? I wouldn’t bother with T6 anyway unless i was a Caster or Guard who can Benefit from the S&S or the DT T6 Tali and Necklaces for all Classes maybe even the Conqueror 2H Tanking Sword.

  • Because how much ‘‘Time’’ and Repeating it does it take to get so many Relics and Why? What ‘‘Justifies’’ such a Long Time Consuming Grind? The decision that was made to make AoC a WoW clone! Why even use WoW as a Standart? What so special about it, to me it always looked like some High Fantasy too overly Toonish Game like Guild Wars. Never liked it.

Which brings us to the main conclusion:

Because its a WoW Clone after T3-T3.5 that is designed to keep you busy repeating ‘‘Grinding/ Farming’’ same stuff that feels like a Chore till you cross that Bridge to jump to the next Tier, many people just drop it. Because that’s the Normal thing to do :wink:

  • The Gap is not only increased by the ‘‘Time’’ and ‘‘Amount’’ of Tokens/ Clearing an Instance more than 10+ Times (Because there is also the ‘‘Drop Chance’’) but by the ‘‘Waiting Time’’ as well.
    Lets say you made it to 80 and you wish to proceed. You Wait! You may do 3-4 Dungeons a day, the rest of the time ‘‘You Wait’’ Same happens while you ‘‘Wait’’ for Raids to happen. You wanna Clear the Arena to get those Runes? You Wait. You wait for 4-5 people to kill their pets and progress just a few points to next Rank.
    How many Kills to next Rank? 200? That’s 4-5 Hours and i don’t have 5 Hours just for that and it feels boring to just watch and Wait.
    You feel like doing Onslaught in between, again ‘‘You Wait’’ or just do the Daily once or twice. Right…
    Raidfinder? You just it a few times Mondays. World Boss, maybe once for the Box. (I never understood why people just ‘‘Wait’’ 30 Minutes for the next WB doing this for Hours everyday.
    It’s not Normal. I don’t know, its just Crazy…

Everytime i played this Game after LVL80 it was 20% Doing content 80% ‘‘WAITING’’
You can also see that everyone else does the same actually especially in OT. They just ‘‘Wait’’ :crazy_face:
Well i could go to a Pub and have some Beer i guess and guess what.
I tested Secret World Legends.
Sure its Combat is unlike AoC although it does make sense (i would only add to it a more complex spec/ ability system and better dodging mechanics but at least Casters are not ‘‘Bunny hopping Pew pew Aimbot kiters’’) and you never Wait for anything!
Aside from Immersing yourself in the Story and just play without being Anxious about Gear or any pressure to ‘‘Farm’’ for anything, you always have something to do and when you wait is when you use the Exchange in Agartha.
People also host In-Game Live Radio events and you can take a rest and join a casual conversation in these places while drinking some Beer at home. Sure some take it more RP oriented but everyone enjoys it differently.

You don’t need to Wait anymore!

  1. Up to 10% of the players who try AoC will leave because most are Untalkative/ Unfriendly/ Unsocial Elitists, Guilds having no meening anymore (They used to have with PvP competition) and its not like you will say ‘‘Hello’’ and get any response at all just for the ‘‘Formality’’ at least (Like you do when you go to a Store, unless you guys go to a Store and say ‘‘One this’’ Grab it take it while the Personel is being nice with you and leave without saying a word’’)

Add Elitism on top and you just created the most unwelcoming environment in an MMO. Even CS:GO is more Social lol

  1. Shall i even mention how many Bought AoC for its PvP Aspect and left it because PvP is dead or its only available in Fury where even Progression takes ages and feels like a Ghost Town?

  2. Monetization in AoC is bad. After testing SWL i found it worthwhile to spend money there and its so rich i feel like i am playing an RPG again. Sure it could use more stuff in the future, maps etc. but they will come and its in ‘‘Real Maitenance Mode’’ Unlike AoC which is in ‘‘Abandoned Mode’’

Is there a TLDR version of this?

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drop a few of the most successfull mmorpgs where this isnt the case

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Would you like me to send you a kitten?

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I’m confused, who is an elite cyclist?

The mind-numbing grind after 80, obvious lack of developer interest, and the maintenance phase P2W stink keep me away. I level an alt a few levels on occasion, but that’s it.

If you really do think AoC is not a dead game take a trip over to GW2 and see. it will blow you away. You are never alone anywhere, even in “old zones”. GW2 is regarded as a somewhet dead game and they can boast of probably 100-200x the players AoC has.